Again, what proof do you have that homosexuality is typified by infidelity and disease? Noone can provide evidence that gay people are more promiscious. Well, I suppose they are considered more promiscious by extremists like yourself because they have sex when they are not married. Wow, that is a quagmire. Maybe, and this is a whole new idea, we should allow gay people to marry. In fact, nature seems to see it as normal. Are animals able to make subconscious decisions about their sexuality? Because there are animals in other species that have gay sex. It isn't gay adoption that makes dolphins have sex with same-gendered dolphins. Science would probably indicate that in evolutionary terms (which I suppose you don't believe) that this would be applicable to humans. That it isn't a choice. Again, the Bible says a lot of crazy shit. I'm glad you brought up the New Testament, because I find it more evil than the Old Testament. I would really like to hear the intellectual argument for God's existance. Please tell me it. I find the New Testament more evil, because the supposed God employs the most disgusting form of masochism in trying to get Abraham to murder his first born. It also exposes a suspicion that religion is man made. None of the gospels can come up with a single concencus on the crucifixion (luckily we now have an Australian fascist ham actor telling us the real account). Another argument for the man made concencus, is that Jesus and his desciples could not have been 'Christians'. This illiterate gaggle could not have identified as Christians as they had no idea that an ideology would be found on the basis of their master's pronouncements, and they were never to read books that are essential for Christians to believe in for them to affirm belief. You are entitled to your own belief, but you're not entitled to your own facts. You cannot prove that the majority of people share your beliefs or hatred of homosexuality. You can not believe evolution. But, emperical evidence disproves much of the holy scriptures. Why is it that all messiahs, in all religions, have been born a virgin's birth? Why is it that Mary has no recollection of the Archangel Gabriel telling her that her son, was the son of god? This further exacerbates the notion that religion was manmade. Homosexuality is more likely to be genetic. People in the higher realms of society have condemned it for centuries, but have been secretly engaging in it. They believe it will help them escape it. That's why religious figures have engaged in it. Priests do it to this day. It is not encouraging a culture where gay men and women can come out that encourages peversion, it is a culture where it is banned which encourages peversion. Do you think that if Christianity had been more welcoming of homosexuality, that there wouldn't have been the raping of young boys in the Catholic church? I do. Indeed, and relating to the virgin birth matter, there seems to be a strange link with gay seperatism. Gay seperatists feel a superiority complex over straight couples, and often, a loathing of women. Religions do just that. The very fact that all the monotheisms have misogyny as a central plank, further solidifies the belief that religion is man made. Many outwardly homophobic men, actually often have secret sexual feelings for homosexual men, even if they are straight, but they feel threatened by them. I can't tell you the number of religious extremists who I know at school, who I know are gay, despite their gay-bashing. Anyway, on virgin births, what other reason could explain that common trait in all religions, except of the common trait of misogyny, of why these are the only births in history to have been born to those of virgins? Islam allows for young girls to be mutilated, it is not female circumcision, but it is mutilation. Judaism requires orthodox believers to thank god every day that they are not women. Indeed, everything about religions seems to indicate a hatred of female genitalia. I may support gay rights, but this is a view which I don't share. Oh, finally, I know they are Old Testament doctrines. So why do you adhere to the laws about homosexuality? If, when I have questioned homophobic Christians about this, and they say God allowed free will, but this free will can allow us to determine his belief that homosexuality is wrong, doesn't this again indicate man made belief? And the churches have a fond history of adhering to Old Testament laws. Particuarly slavery. But if you say you are not Jewish, than why adhere to this particular law about homosexuality?

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