The Last British Revolution: Happy Birthday America

Thanks to Harry’s Place for reminding us all “across the pond” that July 4th should be celebrated in these parts as well!

Today is the day when the British freed themselves from a despotic monarchy and declared independence.

Unfortunately, they were unable to liberate their homeland of the British Isles, but those Britons willing to stand up to a tyrannical king went on to become “Americans” and created a world superpower, invented the corndog, and gave the world Bob Dylan”.

Happy Birthday to all our Revolutionary American Cousins!

Picture here is of what is considered to the first flag of the United States, the “Grand Union” or “Continental Colours” (properly spelt of course) flag that was in use 1775-1777.



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Re: The Last British Revolution (#1)

A good posting, and a reminder of America's revolutionary roots.

It remains to be seen whether the battle for the heart and soul of the United States during the George Bush era will result in a continuing slide into empire or a reassertion of the great Republic.

The Declaration of Independence enshrined the concept of inalienable rights - quite a useful concept in our own current climate do you think?

A commendable republican spirit too!

Re: The Last British Revolution (#2)

The American people don't deserve to be treated like idiots, which the Republicans and Democrats have both done in the last decade.

They're finally regaining some of the spirit left by a country founded by intellectuals, debating real issues.

My secular, republican heart is with America though! I know America has many faults, and so do many American people, but it is a great country.

In my hatred of terrorists, I'm prepared to make two noble exceptions-Nelson Mandela, and George Washington.

Re: The Last British Revolution (#3)

The word "terrorism" is grossly overused of course. In my book it means an attempt to create a climate of terror for political ends and I think, if I remember rightly, that some of the Russian nihilists tried to formulate it as such as a political philosophy?

It's so partisan in the way it is actually used though as to be of quite limited use. Normally (with regard to states we like) "terrorism" is only applied to opponents of the state.

One might apply it particularly to deliberate attacks on civilians of the type favoured by Al Qaeda. However logically one might ask whether the creation of a state of terror by bombing cities is not also a kind of terrorism. The apologists for arial bombardment insist of course that they are attacking specific targets for military reasons and unfortunate civilians who get in the way are suffering collateral damage rather than terrorism. One might, however forgive the victims of collateral damage for thinking that there was no difference between this and terrorism (and of course the numbers killed by arial bombardment staggeringly outweigh the numbers killed by terrorism).

But it would be hard to argue, to my knowledge that either Mandela or Washington were terrorists on the definition I advance above.

Re: The Last British Revolution (#4)

I agree, but in our current climate there seem to be many synonyms for potential terrorists. Nelson Mandela was referred to as a terrorist by the Tories, but wasn't by Labour supporters.

But, the rule that those who fight as terrorists will rule as terrorists is misleading. My point is though, that in terms of how they fought, in current standards, Washington and his fellow revolutionaries could easily be defined as terrorists, but they instead founded their country on secular, republican ideals of liberty and freedom.