Wow, you're prolific. Do you have a website? It must have a zillion pages.

The fact is that war has been waged on family life, Christianity, free speech, etc. for decades. 

Look at this part of the agenda from 20 years ago, entitled "The Overhauling of Straight America"

It is a blueprint for conditioning Americans to accept homosexuality as normal.

It starts with these words:

"The first order of business is desensitization of the American public concerning gays and gay rights. To
desensitize the public is to help it view homosexuality with indifference instead of with keen emotion."

And explains how. Here are excerpts.

"Talk about gays and gayness as loudly and as often as possible. The principle behind this advice is
simple: almost any behavior begins to look normal if you are exposed to enough of it at close quarters
and among your acquaintances."

"The way to benumb raw sensitivities about homosexuality is to have a lot of people talk a great deal
about the subject in a neutral or supportive way. Open and frank talk makes the subject seem less
furtive, alien, and sinful, more above-board."

"The main thing is to talk about gayness until the issue becomes thoroughly tiresome."

"the imagery of sex should be downplayed and gay rights should be reduced to an abstract social question as much as possible. First let the camel get his nose inside the
tent -- and only later his unsightly derriere!"

"Where we talk is important. The visual media, film and television, are plainly the most powerful
image-makers in Western civilization. The average American household watches over seven hours of
TV daily. Those hours open up a gateway into the private world of straights, through which a Trojan horse might be passed. As far as desensitization is concerned, the medium is the message -- of normalcy.....But this
should be just the beginning of a major publicity blitz by gay America."

"Against the mighty pull of institutional Religion one must set the mightier draw of Science and Public Opinion (the shield and word of that accursed “secular humanism”). Such an unholy alliance has worked well against churches before, on such topics as divorce and abortion. With enough open talk about the prevalence and acceptability of homosexuality, that alliance can work again here."

"Portray gays as victims, not as aggressive challengers. In any campaign to win over the public, gays
must be cast as victims in need of protection so that straights will be inclined be reflex to assume the
role of protector. If gays are presented, instead, as a strong and prideful tribe promoting a rigidly
nonconformist and deviant lifestyle, they are more likely to be seem as a public menace that justifies
resistance and oppression. For that reason, we must forego the temptation to strut our “gay pride”
publicly when it conflicts with the Gay Victim image."

"Straight viewers must be able to identify with gays as victims. Mr. and Mrs. Peterson must be given no
extra excuses to say “they are not like us.” To this end, the persons featured in the public campaign
should be decent and upright, appealing and admirable by straight standards, completely
unexceptionable in appearance -- in a word, they should be indistinguishable from the straights we
would like to reach."

"to offset the increasingly bad press that these times have brought to homosexual men and women, the
campaign should paint gays as superior pillars of society. Yes, yes, we know -- this trick is so old it
creaks. Other minorities use it all the time in ads that announce proudly, “Did you know that this Great
Man (or Woman) was ________?” But the message is vital for all those straights who still picture gays
as “queer” people -- shadowy, lonesome, frail, drunken, suicidal, child-snatching misfits."

"long after other gay ads have become commonplace -- it will be time to get tough with remaining opponents. To be blunt, they must be vilified."

"The public should be shown images of ranting homophobes whose secondary traits and beliefs disgust
middle America. These images might include the Ku Klux Klan demanding that gays be burned alive or
castrated; bigoted southern ministers drooling with hysterical hatred to a degree that looks both comical
and deranged; menacing punks, thugs, and convicts speaking coolly about the “fags” they have killed or
would like to kill; a tour of Nazi concentration camps where homosexuals were tortured and gassed."

"Because most straightforward appeals are impossible, the National Gay Task Force has had to
cultivate quiet backroom liaisons with broadcast companies and newsrooms in order to make sure that
issues important to the gay community receive some coverage"

"If all went as planned, the somewhat desensitized public and the major networks themselves would be
readied for the next step of our program."

"The gay community should join forces wit other civil liberties groups of repeatable cast to promote
bland messages about America the Melting Pot"

"These images [of ranting homophobes] should be combined with those of their gay victims by a method propagandists call the
“bracket technique.” For example, for a few seconds an unctuous beady-eyed Southern preacher is
seen, pounding the pulpit in rage about “those sick, abominable creatures.” While his tirade continues
over the soundtrack, the picture switches to pathetic photos of gays who look decent, harmless, and
likable; and then we cut back to the poisonous face of the preacher, and so forth. The contrast speaks
for itself. The effect is devastating."

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I have no hatred of those who engage in homosexual activities, but I do hate society being engineered by a small minority for their own aims.

What about YOU?

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If I was on a train and I saw some drunken Nazi Jerk telling a mixed race girl that she was a mongrel and he was frightening her. I'd stop him. Forcefully, if necessary (and he was pretty small!!).

Matter of fact - I once did.

Well done. Naturally, I approve. It's the sort of thing that you're likely to get into trouble for these days under Labour's constant sucking up to the criminal element.

I can't see what it has to do with this argument though.

As I believe the Bible, I believe we are all descended from Noah and his family, so we are all related in one human race, therefore I'm not a racist.

I know you're trying to tease me. If someone was being beaten up for being a homosexual, I would also love to get stuck into the idiot that was doing that - and after he had been carted off to the police station/hospital, tell the homosexual person about the gospel and consequence of sin.

I think it is ME being judged here, not being the judge.

It is right to be "our brother's keeper," I'm glad you agree. To me that is to warn against sin, but to most people posting here it is to encourage them to carry on in their sins.

Who of us is truly being their brother's keeper?

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What proportion of the UK population wants out the EU altogether?

I don't suppose the Express poll is representative where 94.7% want out last time I looked.

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