Education and Heath services had enough cash

Thepowerlesslowpaid Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:15:14 PM GMT Print-friendly version Facebook

 Look at the money spent on the health service and the education service.Never had it so good and they are still moning they are hard do by.It,s about time they should mover and let the vast number of people on low pay or pensions have a petter bit of the cherry.The middle classes have never had it so good.                                                   The middle class lobby has to bigger say,and listend to than they deserve.
 The low payed need govenment power to force bad employers to pay thier staff a living wage.
 There should be no tax payers money making up poor wages. 
 
 
 



 HELP THE LOW PAYED


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Education and Heath services had enough cash | 6 comments (6 topical)

Re: Education and Heath services had enough cash (#1)

by Angiem on Mon May 05, 2008 at 09:00:49 PM GMT

While I think that those in the public sector deserve an increase to reflect the cost of living. I also think that more attention does need to be given to low paid people in the private sector. As far as I am concerned all workers are key. Low paid private sector workers do not enjoy the terms and conditions often offered to those in the public sector we do not get sick pay and only get given the minimum holiday that the law will allow. The raise in holiday allowance is something that I am grateful for.


While I would not want to see a  total doing away with tax credits. I would like for there to be less need for them. I agree with you that the tax credit system has a downside in that it encourages low wages because employers know that people can claim them. This is to the detriment of single people like myself who can not.

The raising of the holiday allowance was a good start. To add to it we need a raise in the personal allowance before tax and the minimum wage. Also a minimum number of days that full sick pay would be paid in any given year. Two weeks would be a good start.




Re: Education and Heath services had enough cash (#2)

by treborc on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:37:31 PM GMT

The problem is your looking at it from the wrong view the NHS has had money poured into it, a lot of it wasted, and yet when you talk about low paid you then say the NHS has enough, the mistake your making is the way the NHS is run, it's the largest employer in the country next to councils, both are low pay employers, you can train in the NHS to become a technician and get paid £5.25 a hour, nurses are not paid a fortune when you think of the time taken to become a nurse the training and the responsibility, but then remember the porters the cleaners  it is run as a low pay employer.

Teachers  have to have a good education they have to do long training period, OK they are better paid now, but boy it's not great a head teacher at a large school can earn £100,000 a year, a teaching assistants can earn £12,500.

Low pay will always struggle to get a living sadly be it |Labour or the Tories we will have to fight sadly we will win but in the end we will lose.


Re: Education and Heath services had enough cash (#3)

by rwendland on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:22:13 PM GMT

I'd love to know how many £100k headteachers there are - it must be a small handful with the London fringes Headteacher scale £40,491-£98,991. I'd hazard a guess that outside London most primary heads get no more than £50k.

Main England & Wales teachers pay scale is £20,133 to £29,427 which does not sound a great professional's pay scale to me.


Re: Education and Heath services had enough cash (#4)

by Rathfelder on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:43:59 PM GMT

We need to do a lot more to ensure that the low paid staff in the NHS - which is quite a  lot of them - are properly paid and properly treated.  But we cannot have a situation where only public sector staff have decent terms and conditions of employment.  


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Re: Education and Heath services had enough cash (#5)

by treborc on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:06:50 AM GMT

What a thing to argue about when we are talking about wages of the low paid you bring up teachers whether they get £100,000 or £75,000, you said nothing about teaching assistant. You did not say a work about the low paid in the NHS. but picked up on teachers, yes we know they should get more, but the main target should be people who get £5.25 a hour.

I can live on £22,000 a year better then living on £12.500.

It does not matter what you think of the sick and the disabled, I actually live on £88 a week, my wife gets the same now because she has to care for me, she gets £88 a week, we have to pay rent and council tax, try living on that.


Re: Education and Heath services had enough cash (#6)

by jkitleft on Tue May 06, 2008 at 06:58:12 PM GMT

I think some believe though, that if you throw money at the NHS and our Education system, it can easily swallow it up. A good way to free up money for our NHS would be reviewing the IT system which costs around £15 billion.


Education and Heath services had enough cash | 6 comments (6 topical)