I can't say that the LibDems are "centre left".

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Sorry to swear, but can't you just piss off?

You have nothing to offer this site other than sarcastic comments which aren't remotely funny.

If you have something intelligent or constructive to say then say it. Otherwise, clear off.

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Well said.

The ministers that came on TV to discuss the results gave dire excuses.

Some of them (John Denham, Geoff Hoon) couldn't even admit that the results were actually bad.

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"we also speak like we bureacrats, like we're managers. "

I would agree with the first part but not the second.

I don't think our ministers act like managers at all.  They come across as arrogant, lacking common sense and have an inability to really listen. 

They compound any problems that come up by the way in which they respond and have a complete inability either to be critical of themselves or focus on the main business of their departments (instead being more interested in the next initiative that will just blow up a year down the track).

They appear as robots, completely out of touch with their own true selves and as a result come over as false.  Look no further than our own PM who we would have had confidence in if he would have remained true to his hard working miserable scotsman self but instead paints on a false smile and starts to bear an uncanny resemblance to Richard Nixon. 

As a result they lack credibility, honesty and charisma (note charisma not being that they look good but that they are true to themselves, including their faults).  These are fundamental leadership traits.  

In addition, because they have never managed anything of any consequence at the delivery level, they have a complete inability to trust front line services.  Instead they try and micromanage front line managers using less competant civil servants who have no accountability for the cock-ups they make.  The result is poorer performance that is then blamed on the front-line, followed by threats of privatisation, but again reinforces the view of arrogance and incompetance further up.

In summary.  It is because the last 30 years of management development between the workforce (in both the public and private sector) has passed by this bunch of career politicians that we are in the biggest mess since 1983.

It almost looks as well as if the PM does not seem to be able to look at his MPs, understand their psycological make up to get them to work as a team.  Instead it looks like there are a load of particularly introverted characters (questioners) such as himself, Ed Balls, Yvette Cooper (Yvette being a perfect example of arrogance meeting a leadership type on Newsnight over 10p) etc. running things, together with a bunch of carers (Hazel Blears types).  There seem to be no leader types to add some common sense and ability to maintain perspective and few social types that can get messages across (David Milliband would fit but he is not visable enough).  I hate to say this but the balance of the tories front bench as a team looks better.

Still give you some fun to drop each minister into their respective box next time you see them on the television and see whether they are suited.

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I mean 'World Economic Crisis' is what GORDON BROWN is thinking about, sure, and quite right.  But to insist that that what the man and woman on the street is fretting over is to invite an electoral slap.

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That is actually great for democracy - we've had a solialist dictatorship for 10+ years now and at last the British people have woken up.
BTW please don't get rid of Brown - he's wonderful - even better than Foot

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