Twenty is plenty

Will Parbury says that government moves to introduce more 20 mph zones are a good thing but going further will pay greater dividends.

According to The Times today the government wants to reduce road traffic accidents. Consequently it wants to introduce more 20mph zones as these are much safer than the present 30mph limit. The government is right to do this but it should take the argument and implementation further.

The government’s right to say that 20mph zones will save lives but they will also be more attractive places to live and if you bring the limit down further to 10mph parents will be much happier to let their kids play out. What may start out as a bid to improve road safety may end up being good for child social skills and health.

Introducing 20 mph limits for schools at the start and end of the school day has two major drawbacks. Firstly it assumes the only need for protection from motor transport is for small kids outside a school. The reality is that drivers tend not to be to discriminating in who or where they hit and the wider public also need protection.

Secondly changing the speed limit all the time confuses drivers and encourages them to break the law. What we should be aiming for is a standard national speed limit in residential areas of 20mph so we can develop a culture where people not cars come first. Where it is safe to walk and cycle and a pleasant environment to live in.

We shouldn’t just use speed cameras in order to enforce the speed limit but also social pressure. It should be as unacceptable to kill while speeding at the wheel as it is while drunk. If we can get this policy right then we can all benefit from a healthier and safer environment.



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Re: Twenty is plenty (#1)

20 is too slow ; leave it at 30 mph, and get children, pedestrians and other road users better educated in road safety.

Re: Twenty is plenty (#7)

You can be as educated as you want but a car travelling at thirty is alot more likely to kill you than one travelling at twenty.Oh and drivers drivers need to know nothing about road safety?

Re: Twenty is plenty (#2)

20mph is ridiculously slow - you'd be going at a snail's pace.

Nanny state nonsense like this will get us nowhere.

Re: Twenty is plenty (#6)

Nm and Swatantra

I don't know if you have driven in France but this kind of speed limit works very well in some bulit up areas there - in fact I believe it was 30km/hr which is less than 20mph. It's nothing to do with a nanny state - it's having speed limits that are approriate to the area - so that pedestrians are not mown down and children are able to play safely outdoors.

Possibly there might be stretches of motorway where the speed limit might be relaxed (though I know the environmentalists will complain about that!).

Re: Twenty is plenty (#8)

Exactly

Re: Twenty is plenty (#10)

children are able to play safely outdoors.

Are children meant to be playing in the roads?  I thought parks and gardens were more traditional? 

I'm with Northern Monkey on this - ridiculous nany-state nonsense indeed.

Re: Twenty is plenty (#3)

Councils can make the case and do this as things stand. And speed limits are MAXIMUM speeds not recommended or average speeds.

Checks round are way found that 37 mph was the average speed on certain 30 mph routes pre calming and 27 mph after. Underlining the maximum concept, and enforcing the 30 mph would be a start.

I don't object to 20 mph being the default for smaller off roads but the means to do this exists.  But in any case clocking 30 mph in many of these off roads ought to be an offence anyway, it IS an offence, as this is unsafe.

The idea of 20 mph on all urban roads is a step too far.

Great item in today's Mail with Rosie Boycott test driving a Lotus Elise based car which costs 1p a mile to run. 

 

 

Re: Twenty is plenty (#4)

With 3,000 children killed or seriously injured per year (8 per day) on the roads, this approach applied to minor roads seems sound.

Average speed limits seem fairer as the occasional driver mistake won't get a penalty - good.

Re: Twenty is plenty (#5)

We had a meeting not long ago and suggested putting up crossing out side of all schools pelican crossing, it was turned down as being to expensive, but I listened to the council saying 20mph was needed I actually pointed out in my area outside schools it was already 20mph but unless you then had some sort of police or speed camera it would be a waste because bad drivers who caused accident would ignore the limits. Then a councilor stated it would add more revenue under the fines given out to speeding so helping the Police, so lessing the money needed to keep policing costs down.

But we have known for a long time when you have a school crossing officer you have less accidents, speed kills but only bad drivers speed outside schools.

Re: Twenty is plenty (#9)

We did some stuff in Southampton on this a while ago- there was really strong support from parents about instituting legally enforceable 20mph zones, rather than the 'advisory' signs the Tory council was proposing.  Also a very useful campaigning tactic, as a 20mph sign is basically a giant red circle, meaning you can still have it printed in full on a 2 colour leaflet.