Some thoughts and background material on Caroline Flint's pronouncements

(I started writing a reply to another thread on the Flint speech but then thought it might be better if this was posted as a separate entry. It details how we came to today's situation where 50%+ of people in social housing are in the NEET group)

Housing Minister Caroline Flint’s this week gave a speech after which it was reported that she had apparently proposed linking getting a council house to getting a job and despaired at the number of people who are NEET (not in employment, education or training) who live in council housing.

(I was at the conference she spoke at and that was not the full impression I got but inevitably this is the way the story has been received)

Some background factors:

As you may know the UK is unique in the world as under the terms of the 1977 homelessness legislation (updated in more recent housing acts but still based on the '77 Act, Scottish legislation different again but still based on '77 Act) people that fall into a priority need category and who are unintentionally homeless have a right to apply to their local authority for rehousing.

Broadly speaking people fall into a priority need category if they are families with children or single people who are vulnerable through mental or physical health or through an institutional background etc. More information on this is at http://england.shelter.org.uk/policy/policy-959.cfm. Families applying must also prove that they are unintentionally homeless (ie haven’t refused to pay the rent/mortgage) and must have a local connection to the council area (generally have lived there before, have family there etc) – both of these are interpreted differently by different local authorities.

Case law has ruled that the right to rehousing is generally realised with the granting of a secure social housing tenancy. This means that as long as they pay their rent on time and do not commit antisocial behaviour tenants are safe in their homes for life or until they want to move out.

As a result inevitably social housing (ie council and housing association housing) will have many people who fall into the NEET category.

We should feel proud that the 1970s Callaghan Labour Government passed an Act that guarantees good quality housing to those who are least well off in our society.

When the Act was introduced council housing accommodated around 32% of the population and had a range of people in it - the majority of people were 'normal' working families. In many cases council housing was of a higher quality than private housing - being more spacious and better built.

Through the 1980s as a result of the Thatcher government's policy of right to buy and the restrictions on councils using the money to build new housing (which actually was the practical problem - not sale of council homes in itself) the number of council houses diminished and so increasingly local authority housing departments had to prioritise who they rehoused giving priority to those who were entitled to rehousing under the terms of the law.

Anyone who could afford it (and remember big discounts of 50%+ were available for council tenants) bought their own home - they were fools if they didnt. And so council housing increasingly became the residual option - housing for people who had no other choice. Whatsmore the sales of council housing were concentrated among the most desirable properties (generally houses) and so the council property left was the hard to let tower blocks often on out of town estates in undesirable locations cut off from employment and town centres.

As I mentioned before as the council housing was sold off the Tories made it very hard (if not impossible) for councils to replace it with new housing. Over two million council homes have been sold off and not replaced.

In the 1970s 150,000+ new council homes were being built each year. This declined through the 1980s until now around 30-40,000 new housing association homes are being built each year. Added to that is the continued operation of right to buy which still results in tens of thousands of housing sales a year. Indeed I think it was only last year when the social housing stock was greater at the end of the year than at the beginning largely as a result of a fall in the number of right to buy sales. The numbers being built are set to increase but even if new builds doubled they will no way match need and accumulated demand.

Add to that economic factors - house price inflation has averaged 10%+ a year for the last decade making housing a substantial asset to pass on and 'cultural' factors - the popularity of the channel 4 property programmes and the idea that housing is an investment. These result in home ownership being seen as the most desirable choice by the majority of the population.

So today we have a situation where less than 20% of the UK population lives in social housing, 70% of the population own their homes and most people ultimately aspire to do so.

 The flip side to this is that inevitably social housing will contain the people who cannot afford to buy market housing - the people with the problems and those unable to work. It is therefore no surprise that economic disadvantage is concentrated in this group. In many cases council house dwellers form separate sub-cultures cut off from the rest of society.

It is clear that tackling the problem is going to take a long time. The government needs to take the lead in tackling poverty, promoting work and providing training etc for people in disadvantaged groups. It has realised that if it wants to really tackle the problem it should break up the concentrations of poverty on social housing estates and so include home owners alongside social housing. It should also encourage the ‘aspirational’ tenants by offering shared ownership etc. Ultimately the government should increase social housing building radically so that there is scope for local authorities to allocate the housing more on the basis of what will make a mixed community rather than on the basis of need. It must be accepted also that some of these will never be in a position to get a job.


Many of these issues were addressed in the housing green paper published last year – it is vital that the new Housing Minister does not get sidetracked into blaming social housing tenants for their state but sets about ensuring that the green paper is implemented.



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Re: Some thoughts and background (#1)

Thank you for posting a considered article - among the shouting and recriminations on the other posts - it's a welcome relief!

One thing - are you sure about this figure?

So today we have a situation where less than 20% of the UK population lives in social housing, 70% of the population own their homes and most people ultimately aspire to do so. 

Only 10% in privately rented accomodation? Doesn't sound right?

Re: Some thoughts and background (#2)

I was quoting the broad figures for the UK - I think compiled from the last census.

However on checking the latest government publication Housing Statistics 2007  published by the Communities and Local Government department I see that the figures for England are

Owner occupiers: 70.2%

Rented from local authorities: 9.5%
Rented from registered social landlords (ie housing associations): 8.4%
Therefore total social housing = 17.9%

Rented privately or supplied with job or business: 11.9% (this includes people like pub landlords, live in carers etc who would lose their housing if they lost their jobs)

These are just figures for England
- Scotland for example has a different tenure mix with around 65% of housing being owner occupied and 30% social housing.

Re: Some thoughts and background (#3)

Right you be...

I'm just surprised by the figure. When I think of young workers in cities or students around the country - I'd have thought it would've been higher.

I'm wrong - it wasn't the first time and won't be the last ;-)

Thanks for the link and thanks again for a considered post!!

Re: Some thoughts and background (#4)

Interesting for all the talk of a buy-to-let boom in the media, how little impact that has had in the overall stats (Table 1.1). 1996-2006 private rented only goes up +1.2% (10.7% to 11.9%) while social+LA rented goes down -3.7% (21.6% to 17.9%). Just shows the scale of the problem we face, and how little the middle-class biased media has reported this.

Re: Some thoughts and background (#5)

I agree and whilst in many cases buy to let has been beneficial to some people seeking housing as it has increased the supply of rented accommodation and brought prices down it will never be able to help out those at the bottom most in need of affordable housing.

I have read some evidence also of the distorting  effect of buy to let - apparently in many cities such as Leeds and Manchester where new blocks of flats have been built in many cases the new flats are being bought off plan as investments. They are then left empty banking on the fact that the property price will increase and so they can sell their spotless investments (without the marks of tenants) within a few years making a large capital gain. This has been termed 'buy to leave' and to strikes me as wrong if not immoral when there are so many people in housing need.

Re: Some thoughts and background (#6)

According to the recent TV documentaries, some buy-to-leave folk will be seriously burnt. Seems developers have been giving semi-hidden 10-15% discounts to buy-to-let purchasers to cover the "deposit", so buyers effectively got 100% mortgages without lenders (officially) realising.

This also means land registry prices for many apartments are 10-15% inflated, so some of the house price deflation we will shortly see will be artificial - a correction for this upward distortion.

I wonder how many of Northern Rock's "high-quality" mortgages are of this kind? I hope the government does not end up paying the tab for this maniac speculation as people/companies declare themselves bankrupt.

Caroline Flint's 5 Feb speech (#8)

Excellent stuff, champagne socialist. But there are some important points on which I disagree with you.

NEET is a specific term coined by Learning and Skills Councils and refers to teenagers older than School Leaving age that they have responsibility for. It doesn't refer to anyone old enough to claim Job Seeker's Allowance.

The increased difficulty is getting into Council housing in high demand and high house price areas is a fact. It is not the reason for the growing concentration of long-term unemployed Council and Housing Association tenants. That is just as serious in low demand and low house price areas, including those with a surplus of Council housing. Everyone who can afford to; buys. Those who can't buy, stay where they are.

Councils can and do discharge their homlessness obligations by arranging private tenancies. Those in temporary accomodation have to claim such fabulous amounts of Housing Benefit that they can't afford to work.

My memories of Caroline Flint are that she doesn't do  sidetracked. She's just been misreported and smeared. Her speech is readily available on the Fabian Society's website (follw link through events) and at 2,129 words can be read in a few minutes.

Caroline Flint's pronouncements (#9)

I think the important part of what Caroline is trying to say is that providing housing is not enough.  Leaving a whole heap of people on an estate where most of the inhabitants have few resources (of any kind) is not going to help any of them sufficiently to re-establish themselves after what is generally some sorrt of trauma resulting in homelessness.  Not many interventions get through to people in places like this, but landlords are in a position to exert some leverage.