Northern Rock to be nationalised

Northern Rock logoGoldman Sachs has recommended that it was not in the taxpayers' interests for Northern Rock to be sold now.  Legislation will be introduced tomorrow to acquire the bank's shares and assets for "a period of temporary public ownership". Alistair Darling's statement appears to say the legislation will be a general power for twelve months to acquire institutions "in certain tightly defined circumstances", so is not limited to Northern Rock.


According to the Telegraph Alistair Darling broke the news to Richard Branson this afternoon "in an acrimonious conversation". Branson is "very disappointed". Public ownership better protects taxpayers and large shareholders may have tried to block the Virgin offer, which would have diluted their holdings, in the courts.

Reports say Gordon Brown will hold his monthly press conference tomorrow morning "to get his retaliation in first".

Vince Cable says "It comes after far too long, but it's the right thing to do". The Telegraph reports that a senior Labour minister said "Vince Cable has given Liberal Democrat economic policy a slither of credibility". Wish we had gone more willingly down this route - wonder how much the delay has cost.

The Treasury press release says Government will not be required to compensate shareholders for value which is dependent on taxpayers' support.

Update: Alistair Darling had a tough interview on Today. Sounds like Northern Rock is going to contract a lot under new management- "refocused ... good quaility mortgage book that could be built upon". BBC Robert Peston says insiders see at least 3 years nationalised, and morgage rates pushed up to lose the business Nortern Rock foolishly expanded into - so quite possibly driving some mortgagers into repossesion.

Key points from Alistair Darling's statement are:

  • The bank will be run at arm's length and on a commercial basis. I will appoint Ron Sandler as Executive Chair to run the bank. I will also appoint Ann Godbehere, former Financial Officer at Swiss Re, as Chief Financial Officer.
  • The Financial Services Authority continue to assure me the bank is solvent. It believes that Northern Rock's mortgage book is of good quality. And the FSA will also continue to regulate the Northern Rock.
  • $100bn have been written off the books of financial institutions globally since the summer ... last week the German government announced a further one billion euros of support to IKB.
  • Both proposals (Virgin Consortium and Northern Rock management) involve a degree of risk for taxpayers and very significant implicit subsidy from the Treasury, involving a payment below the market rate to the Government for continuation of its guarantee arrangements and for the financing we would be putting in place.
  • A subsidy on the scale required would not in the Government's judgement provide best value for money for the taxpayer, in circumstances where the private sector rather than the taxpayer would secure the vast majority of the value created over the period ahead. This would be a poor reflection of the balance of risk borne by the two sides.
  • By contrast, under public ownership the Government will secure the entire proceeds from the future sale of the business in return for bearing the risks in this period of market uncertainty.
  • it is my clear assessment that under the approach we are taking the taxpayer will see its outstanding loans to Northern Rock repaid in full, with interest - and that the business can be returned to the private sector as financial markets stabilise.
  • Tomorrow, before the markets open, it is expected that the UK Listing Authorities will announce that the company's shares will be suspended from listing tomorrow prior to the opening of the London Stock Exchange.
  • Tomorrow, I am also publishing a Bill to bring the bank into a period of temporary public ownership. ... will enable the Government to acquire the bank's shares and its assets. It will provide for compensation to be determined by an independent valuer. It will allow for the running of the bank and for the eventual transfer back into the private sector as soon as it is right to do so. Because public ownership is a temporary arrangement.
  • The Bill gives the Government a general power to acquire the shares in, or assets and liabilities, of institutions. We have deliberately drafted the Bill to ensure that a bank can only be acquired in certain tightly defined circumstances. And that power will only last for twelve months.
  • I've already announced a consultation which will lead to permanent legislation to deal with situations like this in the future.
  • proposals will also cover the Northern Rock Foundation, where he will commit to guaranteeing a minimum income of £15m per year in 2008, 2009 and 2010. This will be paid directly by Northern Rock, and would be a condition of any sale if it were sold in this time.
  • The new Board and the company will operate at arm's length from the Government, with complete commercial autonomy for their decisions ... all operational decisions will be made by the Board with no interference from the Government.
  • It is our expectation that the company can be moved into the private sector at the earliest and most prudent opportunity.
  • At every stage the stability of the economy and the interests of depositors and taxpayers have been - and remain - our first concern.

Meanwhile on another planet "City defends bonuses to Alistair Darling".

However the Treasury press release says Ron Sandler will receive £90,000 per month, and new CFO Ann Godbehere will be paid £75,000 per month - no additional incentives will be discussed until the new board has discussed its business strategy with the Government.



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Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#1)

Well, at least George Osbourne had nothing to say.  It's a disaster, it's a disaster, and what would he have done? Considered it earlier.

Well, it seems it's only New Labour conservative paranoids who discounted that option for so long, letting it drag and drag and dither and dither.  They still can't bring themselves to say the n-word, can they?

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#2)

What next?  Socialism....

A very brave but correct move from the government.  However, why has it been done grudgingly??

Despite New Labour's general favouring of the private sector.  There was a nationalisation or quasi nationalisation of Railtrack back in 2001.  Look how much investment has gone into the railways since then?


Hopefully, this will be the end of the market fundamentalism adopted by New Labour.  It does show how the so-called dynamism of the private sector is very often not the case and instead we get incompetence and cock-ups in the private sector. 

I believe public ownership can and would be popular as long as it is run on democratic lines.  As John McDonnell said in his excellent campaign industries should be taken into public ownership but have worker, consumer and elected representatives on the board and running the company instead of distant, faceless beaurocrats.  A form of Libertarian socialism in the best Benn & Footie tradition.


If the public sector debt goes above 40% so what?  Many of the Scandinavian countries have debt levels twice as high as ours but enjoy a higher standard of living, successful economy as well as a much more equal society.  

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#3)

Comrade Darling is to be congratulated.....pity Brown didn't listen to him earlier.....

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#4)

Hopefully, this will be the end of the market fundamentalism adopted by New Labour.    Massively naive, considering that the government are implementing NHS privatisation in the guise of "polyclinics".

 

 

 

 

 

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#5)

"I believe public ownership can and would be popular as long as it is run on democratic lines.  As John McDonnell said in his excellent campaign industries should be taken into public ownership but have worker, consumer and elected representatives on the board and running the company instead of distant, faceless beaurocrats."

Comrades, please calm down. This is not a policy shift towards political support for greater public ownership.

The government is bailing out one high street bank now so that it does have to bail out several high street banks a few months down the line in the midst of a catastrophic economic collapse. 

This measure does not, it itself, represent a challenge to or even a re-assement of the dominant neo-liberal model. 


 

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#6)

Lets hope that the shareholders of NR get as much as they deserve, which is very little. It is a risk that they took in the first place. At last we have the foundations of a 'People's Bank' and that can only be a good thing.
There has to be a Bank with lower interest rates to borrowers, geared to low income workers offering the services which seem to be disappearing from our post offices.

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#7)

Dear swatantra

I wouldn't hold my breath for the 'People's Bank', but who knows what Ron Sandler the new executive chairman will come up with - he's being paid enough!

But I do think we Labour Party activists can be more forthright about Northern Rock to date - it is an opportunity for Labour to tell it as it is - a private sector failure being sorted by a Labour government.

http://petergkenyon.typepad.com/peterkenyon/2008/02/northern-rock-.html

Time to tell it as it is on the doorstep.

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#8)

Good move, should have been done earlier

Wiseman

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#9)

i'll have no sympathy for the government if they suffer a political backlash over this. Nationalisation was the best economic approach for the bank that could have been done, even some centre-right economists will admit that. The government tried to play politics with the situation though, avoiding nationalisation, for fear of being branded with any left-wing pejoratives the Tories could come up with. I did not blame the government for the initial crisis, but they could have stepped in with a more effective plan, much more quickly.

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#10)

I'm amused by the tone and content of some of the comments on this. Yes, temporary public ownership seems to have been the right thing to do given the circumstances, but the decision has nothing to do with socialism or a return to a more mixed economy. It's a short term measure, taken because it was the only expedient course of action. If anything, it's an example of state capitalism - the bank is going to be downsized and workers laid of so that we the tax payers can get a return on our investment. Should socialists be celebrating the fact that the state is trying to be more effecient in running a capitalist bank than the private sector?

And icepicks all round to anybody who argues this is socialism or uses the word comrade in this context!

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#11)

It seems the "temporary" public ownership  will  in fact go  on for years.....

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#12)

The right decision has been taken and Darling unfortunately had no other option.

However, I think some of you here are perhaps getting your hopes up a bit too much! This was done not out of choice, but through necessity.

As soon as the situation is better again, Northern Rock should be sold back off to the private sector and the government must make sure it's get all of the taxpayers money back again. And that's what will happen.

This is not ushering in a new era of nationalisation, and we shouldn't want that either. We've moved on since then.

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#13)

Well I am not nieve enough to think that this is a return to favouring public ownership per se.

However, it does show that even New Labour now is prepared to bring industries into public ownership.  This in itself, by definition, shows that there is a begruding acceptance that private ownership can lead to such inefficiency and inequity that an alternative model needs to be adoptive.


Read Martin Jacques article in The Guardian and he sees this as a turning point away from the Neo Liberal agenda.  A bit optimistic I know but privatisation suddenly appeared out of nowhere in the Labour Party.  Perhaps a grassroots return from unions and the party to favour public ownership in some instances could be on the horizon.  Interestingly, legislation is forthcoming to consider nationalising other banks.


Saying it is state capitalism is also untrue.  There are no private owners of the bank now and all profits from it will go back to the community as taxpayers.  If it had stayed in private ownership Branson would have made billions at our expense and profits would have gone to him rather than for use by the wider community if the bank turns itself around.  The fact this has happened under New Labour is itself astonishing.  Not an ideal model, in my opinion, but opportunities are there for the future.

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#14)

At the risk of sounding pedantic, state capitalism is exactly what it is.

Northern Rock will be run as a capitalist bank in a capitalist largely free market economy (something I am in favour of). It will seek to make money by lending money at commercial rates of interest and by extracting increased labour power from the workforce by employing fewer people. The profits from these activities will accrue to the state as sole shareholder rather than individuals, hence my use of the phrase state capitalism. I'm not sure I agree with Martin Jaques analysis.

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#17)

And some profit too I hope.  

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#20)

I'm not sure you're quite right, there.  After all, Branson still wanted it; as did other buyers.  You may be right that it was considered 'the least bad option' rather than the preferred one, but it was decided (not just by the government but by independent financial advisers soaked in free-market dogma) that state ownership was preferable to a number of private ownership options in this case.  And in that much, this is significant.

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#23)

Well we already know the free-market cannot provide everything - universal health care and education for example.


But when it comes to banking, generally the free market works well. Unfortunately, Northern Rock gave out too many loans which couldn't be paid back. If this was any other company, it should have been allowed to sink. But since it's a bank and many people would lose their life savings as a result, the government had no choice but to step in.


All the private sector offers would not have paid back all of the taxpayers money in a quick enough amount of time (including Branson's), so the government had to nationalise it temporarily.

But I wouldn't hold your breath that this is the start of something big! As soon as there is a suitable private sector option available, the government will sell it off again.

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#15)

I can't see what else they could have done and they were right to consider other options first. Nationalisation is the safest out of a series of nothing-but-bad options and hopefully the Bank will quickly recover and be privatised in a way that does not harm it's customers

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#16)

Of course the new management of this nationalised industry had to be non-doms didn't they! On top of their £1+ million and £900k annual salaries.

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#18)

Well, wikipedia defines socialism as often characterized by state, worker, or community ownership of the means of production

In contrast capitalism refers to an economic and social system in which the means of production are predominantly private owned and operated.

Considering the rock is a means of production and is in 'state' ownership I think it can safely be put into the socialist sector of the mix in the economy.

We can get padantic about this but I do not believe that when Chavez is nationalising US oil companies in his own country he is furthering state capitalism.  Like Gordon Brown he believes it needs to be done because of market failure.  Obviously there is a huge difference in degree and emphasis between the two.

If nationalising a bank is capitalist what does a government what is a socialist measure???  Privatisation!!!

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#19)

Sorry meant, if Chavez is nationalising oil companies he does NOT believe it amounts to state capitalism.  Long day....

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#21)

I have to say I completely disagree with everyone in favour of this nationalisation. Railtrack was a different scenario - the railways are basic public infrastructure and an industry where normal market competition cannot be achieved - THEY SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN PRIVATISED. Northern Rock should have been allowed to sink - if the government hadn't insisted a buyer keep the business intact, lots of buyers would have been found - they just would have broken the business u - what Northern Rock richly deserved. There is no need and nothing to gain from public sector ownership of banks - banks are best left to the market. And Northern Rock, as a private company that screwed up, should bear the consequences, namely being bought/broken up by more successful competitors. The moral hazard of the state effectively saving a private company that deserved to go under is huge. This act is all part of the general muddying of the waters between public and private that Brown has overseen. Some things are best done publicly (infrastructure, education, health), some privately (make-up, burgers, banks, sportshoes, factories). brown has brought quasi-private companies that aren't subject to competition or penalty for failure into the public sector and now he's started bailing out the private sector - this is all bizarre. Not as bizarre as the command economy supporters who think this is the death knell of capitalism. The problems we have in this country are because tax has been too low, investment in the public sector too low and regulation too light (though voluminous) - we don't have problems because we have too few state-run industries. Regulated market economies coupled with a welfare state ensure the best outcomes for society - socialist economies never have and never will. If having state-run industries was so great, France would be doing well - and it isn't. What we need is tinkering with the current system not a change to state run command economics. Free-market economies are not all liek the USA. Look at Canada. And for the record for those of you who think the scandinavian countries are somehow socialist command economies, they're not. They're basically free-market economies with strong welfare states - my preferred choice.

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#24)

So what about all the savers at Northern Rock? You'd be quite happy to see them lose all their savings?

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#22)

And this nationalisation IS state capitalism (the most misbegotten and terrible economic practice going) - Northern Rock is being run as a normal profit-seeking company - it just so happens that its executives are appointed by the Government and not shareholders.

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#25)

Northern Monkey - is that addressed to me?  The answer is that in a break-up of Northern Rock by competitors, its book of business (specifically its customer accounts) would be one of its best assets and the one that the buyers would fight over. Customers would most likely wake up one day to find they were now customers with Abbey or HSBC or whatever. The people who would be in trouble would be Nortehrn Rock employees - mainly the ones in central office (both senior and junior). That's just bad luck, the Government can't safeguard every private sector job in a market economy and trying to do so damages employement prospects for everyone overall (a la France) and even more significantly, the Government has let more important and more deserving private companies that employed far more people go to the wall - it seems bizarre to spend public money on this company. 

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#26)

The other big impact of NR going into administration would be the rest of the banking sector. Their short-term loans to NR would probably be repaid late, after NR's loan book had been sold on, and quite possibly they'd only get a 90% payback from the administrator.

This kind of knock-on banking sector shock was quite a concern to BoE/Treasury, as the whole sector looked flakey at the time. Possibly the overiding consideration.

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#27)

I personally think the motivation for this nationaisation is in part to avoid more panic amongst the public re: banks (remember the public were still queuing when the government had guaranteed Northern Rock showing that the public were jittery, untrusting and a little ignorant about finance) which is to an extent a legitimate and in part to safeguard jobs in Newcastle because its a Labour stronghold which isn't legitimate as its not in the interests of the wider public. 

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#28)

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Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#29)

Hilarious but true!!!  Nationalise the loss making bit of the rock but the lucrative bit stays in the private sector in a non tax paying off sea trust..

What is going on with this party of ours.  Go back 50 years and Nye Bevin, Michael Foot et al would have been pinching themselves...

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#30)

Michael Foot has been pragmatic with many of his policies though, rather than too many ideological constraints. For instance, he does not intertwine his beliefs with purist pacifism, righting a wonderful book during ww2 about his anger with Tory appeasement, and supporting Kosovo intervention.

Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised (#31)

sorry 'writing'