The problem of course is the BNP is also exploiting the "plague on both your houses" argument.

We're also stuck in the biggest fall in stocks since 1929, we have to be very careful at how to deal with the BNP and the present strategy of simply not engaging with them is still working.

Indeed, similarities drawn with Hitler's NSDAP at the time, when most parties ignored him, failed to gain proper power. It was only when they started to enagage with him openly that he had a large-scale platform to stand on and begin to seduce the population and electorate.

 To be honest, the numbers are still incredibly small, and a number of "Further Right" parties [Though personally I prefer to leave the BNP in it's own category due to it's socialistic policies also...]

They are rising all over Europe, in Austria and Northern Italy for example, they're becoming the dominant force. It seems, to me at least, people are no longer tolerating various "Liberal" tendancies and the perceptions that are becoming well entrenched within elements of society who's explinations by the liberal and indeed the left, are no longer adding up in the minds of voters.

For example, society isn't broken according to people from the left and liberal persuations but there are problems of increasing feelings of lawlessness and crime simply going unreported.

I only really need to cite the case of Shaun Dykes from Derby, when a crowd gathered and goaded him as he prepared to throw himself off a building, and then gathered to take pictures of his dead body on their mobile phones.

Now, that's just an example, an extreme example and folks know the likelyhood of any of those people being found, caught and got anything bar a strong telling off is so slim as to be laughable.

People, quite simply, are scared. So they turn to parties that promise to bring back the blue coated bobby on the beat, the ones who will allow the police to operate as they please to bring crime down rather than be "fully accountable" via paperwork.

Ontop of this is the problem of Nick Griffin. Since he took over the party it's gone through a transformation.

Association to Combat 18 are gone, a lot of it's racist policies are toned down, replaced with policies on the genuine worry of the rapid rise of extreme islam in this country [Wahabist as opposed to the more mundane Sufi islam which has been in the UK since the 1700's and is fairly well integrated historically and culturally in the UK]

Couple this with the addition of every policy of the BNP being voted on by members as opposed to think tanks, and it slowly becomes more and more attractive to people who wouldn't normally find themselves attracted to political parties find themselves interested in the BNP because it's structure is more democratic than the "Big Three".

We also live in a free society and it means that sometimes we have to accept bitter pills and swallow them. We tolerated people like Moqtadr Al Sadr for years and his viritol was much worse than some of the stuff the BNP officially comes out with these days and ti does seem a fairly reasonable party to support.

This is added to when activists and standees are in full buisness suits and look professional whenindeed in my area, the labour councillor who won by just 123 votes turned up in a tatty T-shirt and jeans shows just how serious their underground activities can be.

In order to beat the Nationals it's simple. We need to encourage professionalism and even a dress code on the candidates of all parties, regardless of position and get back to talking about local issues which concern people. Not selling some "Better Britain" idea.

Reading some of the stuff in here... I am glad the Pakistani population in my area is very well integrated! I have yet to meet one from the quarter where they live that does not speak decent, if thickly accented, English. An accent which diminishes with each new generation.

I also note the BNP, in an attempt to gather more votes, now has an "Amnesty" on all families who migrated here during the 50's-60's-70's "waves" as 'British' or 'integrated enough to be British'. Indeed it has, last I knew of, two black councilors in Stoke-On-Trent.

Interestingly, and I strongly suspect "foul hands" here, is this article: http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/burtonmail-news/displayarticle.asp?id=305032

 I did a smidgen of my own investigating and spoke to some people in the area and discovered something incredibly interesting with these posters leading me to suspect that they were not placed there by Muslim hands.

All of them were in English. Every last one. Not a single one in Urdu, Punjabi, or any other language.

While in the Easter Sunday/Ramadan parade, held every year in the town was the usual mixture of Urdu and English.

Which, personally, leads me to beleive that they were placed up there purely to inflame feelings against the moderate and tolerant Muslim population which has, aside from a couple of problems lived quietly and well within the town next to the Polish and English community.

Personally I'd strongly suggest it was possibly activists of a certain fringe party which has now declared it's interest in gaining seats in this area.

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You seem to have your heart in the right place but there is stuff you come out with that is way off the mark.  You have claimed that the police operate ethnicity quotas in its recruitment and that 3rd generation immigrants arrive at school not speaking English and then do not need to learn English.  Both claims have no basis in reality.  Get a grip.  Maybe you should become a school governor or get involved with your local Labour Party and then on the Local Government Committee. 

Well done, AD Williams for staying the course. I would have shaken my head and walked away ages ago.

In this age of social engineering, divide and rule is being increasingly used.

In my view, that's the reason for mass immigration, pandering to minorities, feminists promoted to positions of power, etc.

Naturally, survival instincts of hardworking, patriotic British people who see their country turned into a cesspit of crime and debauchery are going to try and find a way to deal with it - and for increasing numbers, that means the BNP. Not me as yet.

But it's New labour's fault. They have created or at least greatly exacerbated the present intolerance and unfairness in society.

You might remember one of my sayings: there is no equality, there is only a hierarchy of ideologies.

The normal law-abiding, taxpaying British people are being pushed right down the ladder of influence and respect.

What do you expect them to do when Labour has treated them with disdain and things only get worse? 

I'm afraid Labour has now given up on almost all the important things like justice, morality and fairness that it once stood for. Its raison d'etre was to protect the ordinary working people, now the leadership doesn't even care about its core supporters.