How much silver, Martin?

This is one of those occasions when my fingers pummel the keys on my laptop so hard they nearly embed themselves in the circuit boards. Where do I begin?

Today the New Statesman's political editor has used a
column in the Evening Standard to call on voters to kick Labour's London  Mayor out of office. That's not the Political Editor of The Spectator.  It's the New Statesman. Yep, they're meant to be on our side. 

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23433325-details/I+now+believe+Ken+is+a+disgrace+to+h is+office/article.do

That Martin Bright should collude with such a reactionary rag is  depressing enough. But that someone from the country's leading left-of-centre magazine should call for Labour to lose London has left me furious. I can't be the only one.

The weekend papers have been full of advance publicity for a Dispatches programme this evening produced Bright. Without watching we already know that Bright alleges that Ken Livingstone likes a drink, that he is leftwing (and is advised by very left-wing people), and that he works with Muslims from a whole range of
organisations.

Needless to say these allegations have been picked up by the whole range of Ken's opponents in the media.  That's not surprising given the fact that Bright has now openly said he wants the Labour candidate
voted out of office.  Writing in today's Standard he says, "The voters of London should kick Ken out when they go to the polls in May."

Unsurprisingly, the other parties are already using this prime time TV hatchet job to campaign against Ken and Labour.  Tories will be gleefully live-blogging their spin on it, and the Lib Dems have even emailed supporters advertising it.

What Bright does is remind me of just how many in the media who are living very comfortably (thank-you-very much) and will continue to be under the Tories.  They do not share the same regard for the lives of everyday Londers and working people. In Martin Bright's case he gleefully provide bullets to Labour's opponents with one hand, no doubt holding his glass of chablis in the other.

Just as he says it is his "duty" to ask Londoners to vote Ken out, I think we on the centre-left have a "duty" to ask what Bright is playing at? There will always be a lucrative trade for the Left trashing the Left. So come on
man, how many pieces of silver?

We can't control the media and what's now clear is that Labour is facing a big, big fight in London.  Everyone's going to have to do their bit - even those outside of London who see the importance of winning this battle.  I've just donated £50 quid to the campaign. 

http://www.kenlivingstone.com/page/content/splash/

Oh and I've just renewed my subscription to Tribune.  At least you know where you stand with them.


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Re: How much silver, Martin? (#1)

Sadly, there are plenty of people in the Labour Party who will support Martin Bright(without saying so of course). The history of this problem goes back to how the Government of London was established. The idea of having a directly elected mayor with executive power was a dadft idea of Margret Hodge which was sold to Tony Blair as a great way of revitalising Local Government in London.

At the time many speople on the left (including Ken) opposed the idea on the grounds that the Mayor would have too much power and would be unaccountable.

The Act was passed and Ken decided he would stand fofr Mayor. Blair was horrified and organised a campaign to prevent him being the Labour candidate. The upshot was the ill fated campaign for Frank Dobson.

Adfter Ken won he installed his cronies (all Socialist Action) at City Hall.

He always knew he would need the Labour Party's support to get re-elected.

Then came the Iraq war (which Ken opposed). He was re-electedf in 2004 and the Labour Party (including Blair) celebrated.

Now we havethe worst of all possible wotrlds. Without effective scrutiny all of the complaints raised by Martin Bright (some of which are valid) have not been raised by the Assembly.

The serious danger that Boris we get elected and use the very powers which Ken now enjoysto destroy everythinng that Labour has worked for in London.

What we need to start campaigning for is a change in the Governance of London to give the Assembly the scrutiny powers that it always should have had, but stupid people like Nick Raynsford prevented the it from having.

Never has we told you so been so true.

Re: How much silver, Martin? (#6)

> After Ken won he installed his cronies (all Socialist Action) at City Hall.

David Osler makes the useful point "that Livingstone was elected as an independent. Labour Party members potentially faced expulsion for taking the Red Ken shilling, so his choice of appointees was limited from the start." So Ken installing Socialist Action mates as advisers is no surprise.

Re: How much silver, Martin? (#2)

I read the article as well. Its deplorable, especially from Martin, supposedly a socialist, providing ammunition to the Tories. 

Re: How much silver, Martin? (#3)

Amazed at the bias of Dispatches.  There's an interview with delivery van driver who says that he isn't in favour of congestion charge. Lots of footage of Lib Dem MP Lynne Featherstone who doesn't like Labour Mayor Ken. Some people would like more accountability. Fine. Pretty boring stuff really.

Re: How much silver, Martin? (#4)

Disgusting. Everyone on the left should be right behind Ken. Otherwise we get that pretencious toff running our capital into the ground.

Re: How much silver, Martin? (#5)

I will also donate some cash to Ken's campaign, even though I'm a Northern Monkey!

Re: How much silver, Martin? (#7)

Someone we might expect to support Livingstone attacks him.  I assume that his concerns are genuine.  How about dropping the ad hominem and addressing the issues? Sorry: silly question.

Re: How much silver, Martin? (#8)

What allegations is it you want people on this thread to prove or disprove?

Ken likes to drink? Yes, apparently so.  He has advisors who are on the hard-left? Yes, I think almost everyone knew that already.  That he speaks to Muslim organisations, with whom not all of us are in total agreement? Well, yes, but so do the Labour government, the Met police and just about anyone else with an interest in community cohesion.

The point is that these weren’t “concerns” which Dispatches wanted to lay out for us all to make our own minds up about.  But they were instead an out and out attack on Ken by someone who says they want to see him kicked out of office.

Trying to keep Labour people in office doing their job is what Labour activists do – especially this close to a really important election.  You can hardly have a go at people on this list for that.

Re: How much silver, Martin? (#15)

Quite. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Re: How much silver, Martin? (#16)

Er, that's in response to Jenny C.

Re: How much silver, Martin? (#18)

Sorry, Jerry C. Sorry.

Re: How much silver, Martin? (#9)

£50 eh?  That'll keep Ken going for about ten minutes in his Indian hotel room.  Nice to see how you completely fail to address ANY of the points that Bright made in his programme. 

Re: How much silver, Martin? (#11)

What a silly comment. Loads of people are making points about the so-called allegations.  The post is about the political editor of a centre-magazine wanting to see the defeat of a Labour Mayor - an issue YOU completely fail to address.

This is the sort of thing that Ken will be up against right through til may - that much is obvious now.  I think Henry's idea about donating to the campaign is a good one, whatever lurking Tories say.

Re: How much silver, Martin? (#13)

Yeh £50 would also cover about one thousandth of the cost of a good old Bullingdon-style trashing of a restaurant.

Will we be able to trust Boris not to actually trash government property like the spoilt brat that he is, or is that too much to ask?

Also, there were no allegations in that programme that are worth answering to.

The worse smear that seemed to get thrown against him was......wait for it.....he's a....SOCIALIST!!! Heavens above!

Re: How much silver, Martin? (#10)

The Dispatches piece was a polemic of just a tad less fairness and balance than a Michael Moore documentary. Perhaps MM would do us the service of coming over and providing a hagiography for Ken?

It was only in the last  ten seconds of his poisonous narrative that Bright actually let on. Most of the criticism was in fact generic and about the framing of the job - WHOEVER DID IT. And that is down to Hodge, Raynsford, Blair, whoever.

Not Livingstone, who opposed the lack of accountability.

Tatchell? Wants to bleep the Pogues? Arse. The millionairess Lynne Featherstone? "It's not fair!" Looked on the verge of tears at the unfairness of it all. A pair of professors with agendas. A jilted ex-comrade.

Low rent smears: "Links to Iran and cocaine smuggling guerillas" for Chavez, and thence Livingstone.

Trevor Phillips? Well known that KL and LJ not his greatest fans and to be honest who could be? Against the foundation of the agency he heads, full of sub-mail "Ghetto" soundbites, nixxing decentralisation from London to Manchester.

Socialist Action? Ho ho ho.

Bright has of course been supping with Dean Goodson's "sheiks under the bed" Policy Exchange alarmism, smearing every muslim organisation just as the Goodson method smeared every catholic community organisation and every other priest in that other war on terror.

This piece was probably so, so bad that it does not deserve a point by point rebuttal. It is a lazy smear, whatever Ken may have to answer for or not.

The idea of Boris Johnson having these powers and putting his Eton and Bullingdon cronies into jobs is horrifying. It may be that Londoners will react in a completely different way than Bright (and Gilligan) and so on expect.

Ken must hammer Boris. And sickle Dave. Londoners at large may see to it that the anti-establishment, feck you candidate wins through, again.

Re: How much silver, Martin? (#12)

"Yep, their meant to be on our side"

They're.

Re: How much silver, Martin? (#14)

This is pretty unedifying.

Martin whateverhisnameis can attack Ken if he likes. I’m not backing Ken because I’m left leaning – I’m backing him because he’s the best choice.

Gentlemen – I strongly suggest you look at yourselves and what you’ve written. This is political gutter wrestling in its lowest form.

Firstly, I’m not going to address the original article point by point except to say this – this man’s conceit is almost stifling. “I feel it is my duty,” he says, “to warn the London electorate that a vote for Livingstone is a vote for a bully and a coward who is not worthy to lead this great city of ours.

He carries out “his duty” as part or a PR campaign to get people to watch a TV show.

The demonstration of hypocrisy from our visiting Tory friends is also difficult to stomach. JerryC assumes Martin’s concerns are genuine as we would expect Martin to support Ken. Well Jerry, let me put it this way – Martin is selling his TV show in the same way as Simon Heffer has a right-wing newspaper to sell when criticising David Cameron. We shouldn’t be expected to buy any of his guff either.

Remarkably, the normally tolerable Iain Dale sends readers to this thread as a typical demonstration of New Labour kicking a critic.

A quick count shows four attacks on Martin (and one of them was Swatantra!) – which is just one more than the number of visiting Tories who arrived here to add to Martin’s criticism.

Re: How much silver, Martin? (#17)

We ignore the many illiberal, rascist, homophobic and expense abuse activities of Livingstone at our party's peril.

Just because he is the Labour party candidate should not mean that we tolerate the many abuses going on.

Livingstone is damaging the party's image and could keep us out of London for 10 years.   Look what happened to the Tories when they turned a blind eye to some of their MPs abuses.

Livingstone needs to go and a cleaner candidate found to replace him. 

Re: How much silver, Martin? (#20)

We're not saying that Ken hasn't got faults, but compared to that of Johnson and his adulterous, racist and patronising, siver-spooning ways, theres no contest. Johnson is at best a hack jounalist and a lousy MP, with no talent whatsoever.

Re: How much silver, Martin? (#21)

TrueLabour, I'm astonished how people of the left can criticise Ken when I would have said out of all Labour's top men and women in positions of power, he's the most left-wing.

You'd soon be moaning if a true Blairite was our candidate for Mayor.


To say Livingstone is racist or homophobic is just plain wrong - he's done more to promote equality than any other politician I can think of.

The only alternative to Ken is Boris Johnson - and if you cannot see that Boris would be a spectacular disaster for London then you really need to get a grip.

Re: How much silver, Martin? (#22)

Don't even pretend that you're a Labour man Hugh - I've seen through you already.

Re: How much silver, Martin? (#24)

Racist and homophobic?  Sorry, say what you like about Ken, but those charges are completely off target.  Send the first of them a little to the right and see if it hits Boris Johnson.

Re: How much silver, Martin? (#23)

Supposedly Martin Bright spent six months making this documentary! I could have written that garbage in six minutes.


His reputation as a journalist has gone.

Re: How much silver, Martin? (#25)

Ken has no doubt many faults, but he is the most effective local government leader in the country and has done more for health equality than anyone else, including all the Ministers for Public Health we have had so far.  I am afraid this sorry episode just serves to further reduce my opinion of the New Statesman, a journal which was once worth reading.