The Daily Mail and Labour

How should we view The Daily Mail's mild thaw towards Labour?

One of my favourite regular pieces in Private Eye is "An Apology", where it spoofs an editorial line explaining a 360 degree turn in it's attitude towards something and/or someone out of some form of vested interest.
Recently one could forgive some Labour Party members for taking such a view towards The Daily Mail because, in case anyone hasn't noticed, it is a paper less hostile towards Brown's premiership than it is towards Blair's.

But it should be recognised that being less hostile does not mean pro-Labour. Paul Dacre and Gordon Brown may be dining chums but friendships across the political divide does not change viewpoints so much as personal attitude. It's rare, but some PM's and leaders' of the opposition have been friends, although not above attacking each other in the House of Commons. Note Churchill/ Attlee, Wilson/Thatcher, Kinnock/Major, and Smith/Major.
So I think it's fair to welcome The Daily Mail being a bit less hostile, but equally to recognise that it is a right-wing newspaper and one that can be unpleasant. If one wants to see the Mail as a friend then fine, but friends should point out when they think you are going a bit far!
So I think that it's best to treat this new "friendship" with gentle caution, rather than an overfriendly or hostile response. After all a Labour-friendly Mail may be a compromise too far, but a respectful opponent may be beneficial to both sides.



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Re: The Daily Mail and Labour (#1)

The only reason why the Daily Mail has changed its tune is because Brown has gone out of his way to meet most of their demands with regards to social issues. He only needs to crackdown on abortion and promise never to introduce same-sex marriage and the Mail will have achieved the lot.


It makes me greatly uncomfortable that the Daily Mail approve of Gordon Brown and to be honest, I'd prefer it if Labour and the newspaper went their separate ways again. There's nothing wrong with trying to appeal to voters who read The Times for example, or at most the Telegraph, but not the Daily Mail. It's ridiculously right-wing and not something we should be associated with.

Re: The Daily Mail and Labour (#2)

Nick Cohen: What's Left? p.197. 'Almost every word in the paper followed the conservative line, and you wouldn't have been suprised to read in the horoscope that "A full moon in July will mean that Geminis will be mugged by the feral children of a heroin-addled single mother" '.

Re: The Daily Mail and Labour (#5)

Precisely!

Re: The Daily Mail and Labour (#3)

The Daily Mail have decided they do not like David Cameron. For example criticising him over not being in his flooded constituency. Therefore I guess they must be presenting Gordon Brown as the lesser of the evils. I do not read the Daily Mail so am unable to comment further than this. I tend to read The Times. If I want to occasionally check Tory viewpoint then I will read The Telegraph. I draw the line at either The Express or The Daily Mail both have the most stomach turning front pages that I am unable to venture further.

Re: The Daily Mail and Labour (#4)

I also read the Times, it has some interesting stuff that the Guardian or the Independent wouldn't put in.

If there is a torygraph that someone has left on the tube then I might read it, but I would never buy the Express or the Mail, they are xenophobic and sometimes racist papers.

Re: The Daily Mail and Labour (#6)

We don't vote for newspapers, we vote for politicians and their parties so why should our representatives placate themselves to these people?


The point about the Mail is that is it not rotten because it is conservative. I'm sure we all know and like many conservatives (!!??). The Mail is loathsome and rotten because of its method of demonstrating its standpoint.

It's rotten because of how it reduces the level of debate. It has spread muck about Islam, the under privileged, immigrants or whatever other constituency without proper representation - many of the stories anecdotal are always represented as norms. It reports on tax or price hikes that never or rarely happen. It condemns any practical social reform as "political correctness gone mad" (when the frustrating thing is that there plenty of PC nonsense to fairly and squarely put the boot in). It, more than any other paper, will stoop to any depths to get a story out which is bad news, attacks reason and plays on people's darker fears and prejudices...

...people who are more likely to be in that wretched far right wing of the Tories (or just simply, be idiots).

I have no respect for it because it's nonsense. Not because the people there chiefly hold a different view.

It is very disappointing to see any public servant placate him or herself to a news organisation just to make that news organisation's version of the news more favourable.

In the same way as Cameron, if he had any balls, should tell the Daily Mirror to go to hell, Brown should tell Dacre that he is a muckraker, he is beneath contempt and can report whatever crap he likes - anyone with half a brain or an ounce of objectivity can see what the Mail is anyway.

Re: The Daily Mail and Labour (#7)

Good point. I find with many things that are called PC, are not PC, but just common sense. If you want to ban christmas, that's PC, but some normal and logical practices that are called PC are not. Anywho, i found a Mail on the train the other day, and an article was talking of the Glasgow/London plot suspects. it said 'Mohammed Asha, and his hijab clad wife', which was clearly meant as a negative slur.

Re: The Daily Mail and Labour (#8)

I hope you washed your hands afterwards.

Re: The Daily Mail and Labour (#9)

It made me want to cry.

Re: The Daily Mail and Labour (#10)

If you want to develop some anger instead, how about playing the Daily Mail "Modern Happy Families" cut-out-and-play card game they offer, here's the stereotype-reinforcing Albanian family they offer:

Daily Mail Albanian family 

Re: The Daily Mail and Labour (#11)

I see the Mail are today pushing for the legal age limit to drink to move up to 21. Do they not realise that the age of majority in this country is 18? We're not America, but the Mail would like us to be.


Thankfully the govt. seems to have rejected this early, so perhaps Brown's getting the message.

Re: The Daily Mail and Labour (#12)

is there any reason to believe raising the drinking age to 21 will cut the rise in alcoholism or teenage (and adult) binge drinking?

Re: The Daily Mail and Labour (#13)

Not at all jk. And I severely doubt that restricting the times of day people can drink will reduce the levels of alcoholism either.

The Daily Mail really are the most vile newspaper around - they are desperate to turn any issue into a battle over morals and conservatism.

Try telling students at university that they're no longer allowed to drink and imagine the reaction you'd get!

Re: The Daily Mail and Labour (#14)

What about a real radical idea - Sober journalists