John - I don't think that's a logical response! They're a close family and it would be rather odd if Tony didn't want his son to do well; it's not as if the deputy leadership election is the most ideological of all time, anyway.

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Also John - I'm trying desperately hard not to be too openly critical of Cruddas, because I know comrades like you who are keen he does well - but the idea that somebody like Tony would be (could be!) 'going to the dark side' just because they aren't supporting the likes of Cruddas is a bit of a nonsense.

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Wiseman, I am still feeling REALLY gutted about Cruddas and Trickett's behaviour over the leadership so frankly Tony Benn backing his son in this contest is not a tragedy. HB isn't "dark side" He doesn't fib and doesn't fudge.He doesn't grandstand as left and then backstab, either.I think he comes across as a pretty decent guy. Let's not pretend Cruddas is some sort of knight on a white charger.Whatever he thinks, he would have been in a far stronger position if he'd helped the left get on the ballot and debate with Brown too. And no I wouldn't mention it again but I'm sick and tired of you going on about Cruddas as though he's Gandhi/Tony Benn/Keir Hardie rolled into one.

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