Lords reform: Labour must lead the way:

Only the Labour party has a longstanding commitment to reform the Lords, it is something that has been part of the Labour movements struggle for a better and more equal society since the birth of the Parliamentary Labour Party. In the 1910 election, nearly 100 years ago – the Labour party increased its MP’s from 29 to 40 after the House of Lords blocked the ‘peoples budget’. The Lords was hereditary, unaccountable, overwhelmingly biased towards a single party regardless of public opinion and militant in defence of the interests of one class above all others. Arguably only one of these criticisms has been fully overcome in the last century. Having pushed through some reforms in the last 10 years we must move to entrench a truly democratic legacy – Labour must live up to our constitutional commitment to putting ‘power in the hands of the many not the few’. Only the Labour party can fully see through these reforms, they will never happen under a Conservative regime – we must deliver then on our destiny, and drive through these reforms completing a journey started nearly one hundred years ago.


 

Why House of Lords reform is necessary

 

An unelected House lacks legitimacy. While the House of Lords often does a good job at improving legislation, it is constantly hampered by the fact that it has no claim to be representing the will of the people. An elected upper house would have more authority.

 

As strong Upper House need not mean a weak House of Commons. Rather, as House of Commons Leader Jack Straw has argued, a stronger Upper House would encourage the House of Commons to raise its own game. This can only lead to better legislation and more accountable Government.

 

The current House of Lords is elitist. In a modern democracy there should be no place for ‘the great and the good’. Labour has always stood for an egalitarian society for the many, not the few.

 

Party Patronage devalues politics. The perception that people can buy or secure a seat in the legislature has been a source of controversy for over a century. It undermines trust in our political system and fuels public cynicism about participation in politics. Only by ending party patronage can be begin to challenge this downward spiral.

 

A voice for the regions. An elected second chamber elected in regional constituencies (as proposed in the Government White Paper) would end the South and London bias in the Upper House and provide a new voice for the regions and nations of the UK.

 

An end to Tory dominance. Historically, Labour Governments have always been hampered by a Tory majority in the House of Lords. While this is not the case now, election is the only way of guaranteeing that no single party will be able to dominate the Upper House in the future.

 

The public want reform. Opinion polls consistently suggest that around two-thirds of the public want a majority or wholly elected upper house.

 

For more information, please visit our website:

 

www.democraticupperhouse.org.uk



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Re: Lords reform: Labour must lead the way: (#1)

yes yes yes! Its this kind of thing that make me proud to be a Labour supporter. The CDUH website is excellent as well.

Re: Lords reform: Labour must lead the way: (#2)

Agreed. I was rather disappointed that it's being implied that Brown sees it as a 'manifesto issue'


Hopefully it's just a way of getting Lib Dems to vote for us at the General election - the Torries certainly aren't going to put 100% elected UH in their manifesto.

Re: Lords reform: Labour must lead the way: (#3)

I think that there is everytjing to play for, the CDUH campaign has already got five out of six deputy leadership candidates to sign up in support of the campaign.

 Have yuou signed up yet as a supporter?

www.democraticupperhouse.org.uk

There is now even a facebook group in support too...

Re: Lords reform: Labour must lead the way: (#4)

on the up side - a manifesto commitment makes it difficult for the lords to make trouble as they are abolished

Re: Lords reform: Labour must lead the way: (#5)

it's always good when we can find a political argument for doing the right thing.

Re: Lords reform: Labour must lead the way: (#6)

Why are we getting excited about the replacement of one set of unrepresentative people for another lot?
A fully elected second chamber will simply see more yes-men elected as they seek to ensure they are on-message with the leadership in order to be able to get re-elected the next time.

We really need a mechanism by which people who get on to a second chamber aren't under the party system yoke.

Re: Lords reform: Labour must lead the way: (#7)

Voters should be allowed to vote for whoever they want - whether they choose to stand under a party banner or not. It's not for us to stop them from doing so.

Re: Lords reform: Labour must lead the way: (#10)

Sadly the Euro-election system showed that any new voting system introduced by a main party will be designed to shore up their own support within that party!

The FPTP system is one of the few that actually enables local parties to have an element of control over who represents them. Whilst I'm not a fan of FPTP for democratic resons, I suspect any system of PR introduced for the Lords would take influence away from local parties and make it even more difficult for 'mavericks' within the party, let alone independents to get elected.

And then they'd spend the next 4 / 5 / 7 years seriously Brown-nosing to ensure reselection just like many of the existing elected reps do.
When the rulers create democracy, it tends to encase power in the hands of those rulers far more than it gives power to the people to choose.

It's only in single seat style elections that there is much chance of electing imaginative, principled representatives it seems - like the Mayoral elections...

Re: Lords reform: Labour must lead the way: (#11)

when the Lib dems were first thought to be entering our cabinet in the late 90's, PR was seriously looked at being introduced. At the time though, there were rumours that if Tony Blair didn't balence a party list with left-wingers, a new Socialist party would brake away. The leaderships know that if they introduce PR, they will have to balence the party lists.

Re: Lords reform: Labour must lead the way: (#12)

How balanced would you describe the MEP lists?

Re: Lords reform: Labour must lead the way: (#13)

well a split isn't going to occur due to the nature of the lists for the European Parliament. But if the leadership was to slot the Campaign Group members at the bottom of the list for a parliamentary election, a split would ocuur.

Re: Lords reform: Labour must lead the way: (#8)

Alex, WE ALREADY HAVE A MANIFESTO COMMITMENT!

 In fact we have done so since 1997! We have just left it as unfinished business though! Thats why we cannot afford to do it again!

 To be totally blunt we have had a commitment to changing the Lords for a century! The image we are using for the campaign is in fact from 1910! Thats when the Lords blocked the 'people budget' after which Labour opposed the Lords and campaigned to abolish them - in the process jumping from 29 MP's to 40 MP's! After a century most people want reform not abolishment, but nevertheless we have had a commitment to radical change for nearly a century!

Thats not to mention clause 4 of the Labour party constitution - Power in the hands of the many not the few.

 We cannot possibly be arguing in the 21st century for the forces of reaction over those of progressive reform.

If you are worried about party ‘yes men’ then the simple answer to that is ensure a more proportional system of voting that actually forces candidates to listen to the people electing them.

Re: Lords reform: Labour must lead the way: (#9)

Proportional representation doesn't force candidates to listen to the people who elect them - it forces PARTYS to listen to the people who elect them. Candidates can ignore everyone once selected.

And I'm for PR.