Don't bottle it Brown! Labour must clear the way!

Brown should stake out the progressive ground on Lords reform

An article in last weeks Times has indicated that ‘Brown will put Lords reform on the back burner’.

For Gordon Brown, a man on the cusp of becoming Prime Minister, a man who has passionately talked about delivering a ‘new constitutional settlement’ for the UK then surely to stall now is conceding ground to the Tories? On one clear issue that the Labour party can put some distance between the Conservative and itself Labour can ill afford to back down. A Tory administration would never push through Lords reform, no Tory leader would risk splitting their vote to get this through – so we know it will only happen under a progressive Labour government.

We need to push this to a vote before the next general election – not fudge the issue with vague manifesto commitments. This is exactly what happened last time, we’ve had a parliamentary committee meeting behind closed doors led by Jack Straw tasked to come up with proposals for the 80% and 100% elected options – why expend the effort only to stall and take no further action when the momentum is building. We don’t need more commitments and words that come to nothing – the mandate is emphatically there, the commons has spoken, the people back reform and so does the Labour party.

With five out of six deputy leadership candidates now backing the Campaign for a Democratic Upper House and a commitment to reforming the House of Lords at the earliest opportunity the momentum is building for progress to be made. For Gordon it’s a win win situation. Yes we all agree there is a lot more to be done, there is a debate to be had over the composition and the method of election, but this is no reason at all to put it off and do nothing, again.

The debate over the Lords has raged on for a long time, in the Labour party it has been a debate lasting a century. Those 100 hundred years have seen us move from supporting the outright abolition, to now recognising the useful scrutinising role of a second chamber and the enhanced democracy this can help deliver; but always there has been a desire to reform it. Brown should move to set these reforms in motion at the earliest opportunity, the debate over the wider constitutional settlement is still to be had – But Lords reform is no longer a debate – there is a massive consensus that reform should be made – reforming the Lords is unfinished business. The argument that the Lords will stall the process is disingenuous – that, is exactly the reason it needs to be started sooner rather then later. It needs to be finished – and proposals need to be brought before the House of Commons before the next General Election.

So Gordon, with five of your potential deputies wanting to move ahead with reform as soon as possible, with public opinion massively supporting reform, and with you in your own words supporting reform: ‘As far as the House of Lords is concerned 80% elected is how I voted’ Lets take the progressive route, the Labour route, the way that Labour been committed to for 100 years to clear, lets do it Gordon, do it for Britain.



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Re: Don't bottle it Brown! (#1)

Yes this we really cant have the Tories claiming that they are 'progressive' we know a vote onLords refoorm under a tory regime would see them hopelessly split as it did in the recent commons vote.

 Labour - it is time to the clear the way!

Re: Labour must clear the way! (#2)

You dont have to be Barking mad to see this make sense! Tony's cronies just wont do for 21st Century Democracy! This is something that we can achieve that the Tories never would - and will go down in the history books as a proud Labour achievement!

Re: Labour must clear the way! (#3)

Oh dear, this is going to end up like the ban to end foxhunting, taking up considerable Commons time when you could be preventing WW3.
Everyone is agreed that there must be reform. A second all elected Chamber would never do, unles you reduce its size considerably to about 100 members, rather like the American Senate. The second Chamber in essence has to be a revising chamber playing second fiddle to the Commons. Therefore it must be partly appointed; anything upto 50% would do. But MP's will never agree on its composition.

Re: Labour must clear the way! (#4)

Er, MPs already have agreed on its composition, you just happen to disagree with them.

Re: Labour must clear the way! (#6)

Have you seen this latest article on the Labour Campaign for a Democratic Upper House website www.democraticupperhouse.org.uk

 Why not take a read?

Re: Labour must clear the way! (#7)

Perhaps it is my reading comprehension: but there seems to be an argument missing before the 'therefore' there.... The Lords is a revising chamber, of inferior status to the Commons. Right. So, could you perhaps explain why the electorate can't be told, when electing members to a 100% elected Lords, 'this is a revising chamber, of inferior status to the Commons'? As for reducing numbers: fine. Why's that a problem? As far as I'm concerned this ought to be a no-brainer for anyone vaguely left of centre. Elect the Lords!

Re: Don't bottle it Brown! (#5)

Swatantra did you actually read the post? How can you possibly be a social democrat or democratic socialist, or even a liberal for that matter and not back predominantly elected upper house? Do you really want more of Tony's cronies? Unelected patronage? Cash for honours? Have you seen this other post:

http://www.labourhome.org/story/2007/6/18/132858/573