Blair's Gay Rights Legacy

Pink News has published a polling analysis of the Prime Minister's 'legacy' on gay rights, which makes interesting reading.



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Re: Blair's Gay Rights Legacy (#1)

It's very disappointing and infuriating to see that gay voters actually like Cameron more than senior Labour figures, given what Labour has done for gay rights and the Tories opposed most of them.

Brown on the other hand has done nothing positive for the gay community - he can't even be bothered to vote on half of the measures. Can't see much improvement when he's PM.

The two big mistakes Blair made though were appointing Ruth Kelly as equality minister (even though she doesn't believe in equality) and accepting civil partnerships and not full gay marriage.

Re: Blair's Gay Rights Legacy (#2)

"Brown on the other hand has done nothing positive for the gay community - he can't even be bothered to vote on half of the measures. Can't see much improvement when he's PM."

Brown has such a low attendance record that he hasn't brothered to vote in many things. It doesn't mean he opposes or supports them. If he had a 70% attendance record and he would have missed all those votes on that aspect, well, I would be cynic enough to think there's a reason. But with his voting record (20.5% in this Parliament, 11.1% of divisions attended in the 2001-2005 term), it would perfectly possible to have missed them at random.

Btw, it was a Brown's budget that allowed civil partners to get the same tax rights of married couples (ok, in some aspects it's not always an advantage, but IMO it was right to give them the same treatment of married couples, positive and negative aspects)

Re: Blair's Gay Rights Legacy (#3)

Chris Smith, Peter Mandelson and Nick Brown were members of the cabinet. This is something which probably would never have happened 10 years ago.

Re: Blair's Gay Rights Legacy (#4)

While Cameron allows Cornerstone Tory MPs to act as Shadow Ministers and Chairs of Committees, noone who believes in gay rights should delude themselves that the Conservatives would do anything other than regress our hard work!

Re: Blair's Gay Rights Legacy (#6)

Absolutely.

This Labour government has done more for gay people than perhaps has been done by any British government.

The trouble is, people are so poorly educated on the matter.

Re: Blair's Gay Rights Legacy (#7)

true

Re: Blair's Gay Rights Legacy (#8)

infact, good old monday club member, Angela Wilkinson is a shadow minister (well she was a member, but was threatened with the withdrawl of the conservative whip if she didn't give up membership of the monday club)

Re: Blair's Gay Rights Legacy (#5)

Although the government was very slow off the mark reforming Section 28 and opening up the armed forces, eventually they've done the right things. The legacy is wholely positive. And part of that is that Cameron knows its electoral suicide to try to reverse these reforms.

Re: Blair's Gay Rights Legacy (#9)

No "perhaps" about this government's action on gay rights. The wholesale removal of all legal discrimination on sexual orientation, in all sexual offences and areas of discrimination. Fantastic. But of course voters are never grateful and do not vote on past records but on aspirations. This is important to remember.

Re: Blair's Gay Rights Legacy (#10)

I broadly agree BUT by not giving the status of marriage to civil partnerships the government, intentionally or not is stating that heterosexual and homosexual partnerships are not of the same status. Now we can debate whether that's a tangible difference, whether public opinion is quite there in terms of accepting gay "marriage" or not and whether this is a problem of itself, but that's what it does. Far better in my view for the State to get out of the marriage business altogether: that is, to provide civil and legal rights to partnerships regardless of sexuality (and actually, I'd personally favour some measure of commitment for everyone seeking this recognition so that it demonstrates commitment) but for "marriage" to be left entirely to institutions that want (and can be licensed) to offer such ceremonies - church and civil institutions, principally.