But we definately need a rebranding when Brown comes to power. We should keep the rose as it looks quite good - but just simple things like the lettering, the slogans, the logo, the website could all be altered just to modernise our image and symbolise the change of leadership.

Most importantly, Brown needs to make a clean sweep of the cabinet to get rid of any old faces which have been tarnished with Iraq, corruption or incompetence. And hopefully, he will come up with new policies that are still within the New Labour framework, but differentiate from Blair.

Both are fine by me, though I prefer the latter, the former sounds clearer and slightly less ambiguous! :-)

For example, however we may see through the tories, the whole 'vote blue go green' nonesense worked quite well for them.

I've been thinking about this recently, and while as you k now I'm a loyal blarite, I think once Brown takes over, we need a dramatic and exciting rebrand. That includes an unprecedented and ruthless change in the cabinet. There are least 7 or 8 senior ministers that I would like to see the back of.

He needs a young and energetic reform.

I think Blir could have saved himself more time had he made a better effort of this instead of being seen to rearrange the deck chairs so to speak.

This could and should be an exciting time for the party and country. If people only see it that the PM has changed, it won't be enough. It needs to be a big change, yet responsible and representative.

A difficult task it sounds, I only hope Brown is half as good as is put across, because he will need eevery bit of his political mind in making this a reality.