The blame thread

e10rifles Thu May 03, 2007 at 10:59:57 PM GMT Print-friendly version Facebook

So, let's all start deciding who to blame for today's shambles in English elections (start a separate thread if you want to talk about Scotland and Wales).



I'll start: Tony Blair, who has overseen a steady decline from soon after he took over, to the lowest ratings in a generation.


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Re: The blame thread (#1)

by grimupnorth on Sat May 05, 2007 at 12:48:55 PM GMT

I have lots  of thoughts  on this. But blame culture is going to get us nowhere, is it? Felt like punching  someone  yesterday who congratulated a fellow candidate  yesterday then said "Of course, I couldn't vote Labour, because of Blair." As it was , I told her  to "f*** off" which wasn't very nice I know. But  had  been up all night and had it up to here with smug middle-class liberals  droning  on about why they weren't voting Lab - and I have  NO time  for Blair either. We need to go forward, get away from blame culture,draw a  line under  Nw Labour's  mistakes and  come up with  policies  people believe in. And have a leadership  election - if Brown  gets away with a coronation  after this debacle  then we  really are toast. I hope the LP sees sense  on this. And where is  Gordon by the  way???????


Re: The blame thread (#2)

by Mikael on Sat May 05, 2007 at 05:35:44 PM GMT

 "And where is  Gordon by the  way???????"

Probably trying to hide so as not to be associated with these elections, I suppose... Unnecessary waste of his time, if you ask me...


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Re: The blame thread (#3)

by pregethwr on Sun May 06, 2007 at 12:42:26 PM GMT

Well I'll just add the fact our most disasterous slide happened in Wales where we have charted the most leftwing course.

We lost 8% of the vote compared to 3% in England and 2.6% in Scotland and saw huge swings direct to the Tories in all the key marginals for the 2009/10 election.

Apparently centrist voters don't like inefficient public services run largely by the public sector unions.

Who'da though it?


Re: The blame thread (#4)

by jkitleft on Sun May 06, 2007 at 01:55:17 PM GMT

not the biggest loss of seats though. Tories only got two more constituencies than they did in 2005 GE. There are always swings against left wing Labour mp's, councillers, AM's etc. if they are tainted with the national Labour Party. Also may i add that Wales doesn't have that many powers, and is mainly ran from London, so BNP may be tapping into disaffected Labour voters in Wales


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Re: The blame thread (#5)

by jkitleft on Sun May 06, 2007 at 01:57:56 PM GMT

also, Labour probably would have done worse if the far-left were united. We benefited greatly in Scotland from the split in the SSP and Solidarity


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Re: The blame thread (#6)

by jkitleft on Sun May 06, 2007 at 02:00:15 PM GMT

also, there is going to be more support for Plaid and SNP in local elections, because people like Alex Salmond aren't going to become PM of the UK


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Re: The blame thread (#7)

by Mikael on Sun May 06, 2007 at 03:12:35 PM GMT

"The Far-Left is good at splitting and poor and uniting" - Ted Grant

Or alternatively:

"Two Far-Left-wing sects united in order to form three splinter organisations" - Ted Grant

That's more or less what he said, anyhow! Interpret it as you please...


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