Hilary Benn and the deputy leadership

Are Benn's talents potentially going to be wasted?

I am willing to bet that Benn will win the deputy leadership contest. He is a high profile candidate, and his recent statements on the War on Terror are likely to go down quite well. I am sure he would make a very good deputy leader + deputy PM. However I think this would be a bit of a waste. I would like to see Benn as foreign secretary. He would be very good at it, in my opinion.

 I would prefer to see a more radical deputy (Cruddas), and Benn and the foreign office. Just my opinion, probably a load of rubbish.



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Re: Hilary Benn and the deputy leadership (#1)

I don't think Benn will win the DL contest- I'd put money on either Hain or Johnson getting it. But anyway, you're probably right about the Foreign Sec, I can see him doing that job very well.

Re: Hilary Benn and the deputy leadership (#2)

The presumption that Hilary Benn is too good for the deputy leadership position - for that is what you imply - is erroneous. It would be a waste of Hilary's considerable talent for him not to be elected to the position of deputy leader. Furthermore, there is no reason why he couldn't both be a cabinet minister, and be deputy leader. Nevertheless, should the party decide someone else is best suited for that position, I would hope that Hilary remains a cabinet minister - for he has more than proven himself in the position of Secretary of State for International Development.

Re: Hilary Benn and the deputy leadership (#3)

Hasn't anyone read the newspaper allegations today? Much as I like him and hope for him to get a good Cabinet position, I doubt he'll even get on the ballot now.

Re: Hilary Benn and the deputy leadership (#5)

What's he done? What newspaper?

Re: Hilary Benn and the deputy leadership (#6)

Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/05/13/nbenn113.xml

Also, the Independent are reporting that he's trailing with only 12 nominations to his name http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article2539382.ece

Re: Hilary Benn and the deputy leadership (#7)

This is very disappointing. I can only hope it is the Torygraph lying. I suppose with such a crowded field, anything can happen.

Re: Hilary Benn and the deputy leadership (#4)

Its almost becoming like Benn is 'the Westminster outsider'! As 45 nominations mean 6 candidates can be on the ballot, and Benn has polled as the most popular amongst members, it would seem rather a travesty if he were not there. Historically, Deputy Prime Minister has not had meaningful departmental responsibilities, rather being a subsidiary role for a senior minister. It is John Prescott who has made it a role of substance, and as I think he has said recently, it is in the Prime Minister's gift, and does not necessarily go with being Deputy Leader. For me, having Benn as Foreign Secretary and Deputy Leader would emphasise the political nature of Labour's foreign policy, which in the future I think many members would be happy to campaign on in national elections. Given that local constitutional reform to create more vibrant and inclusive communities should involve cooperation with other parties, it may even make sense to have a Deputy Prime Minister who took on that responsibility in a less party political way, leaving local parties to mount their own campaigns as they see best.

Re: Hilary Benn and the deputy leadership (#9)

I agree it's extraordinary if Benn does not get on the ballot.We need to lower the threshold......my Branch supporting taking it down to 7.5 per cent of PLP .It is, as you say, a travesty.For all wings of the Party.Can't believe he only has 12 though. Probably down to Cruddas taking much support.Maybe he should have stayed a Benn AND a bennite....

Re: Hilary Benn and the deputy leadership (#8)

Don't really want him to be the DL, but I'd quite like to see Benn become Foreign Secretary.

Re: Hilary Benn and the deputy leadership (#10)

The Telegraph story is a clear attempt to de-rail the Benn campaign before it really begins - you do wonder where it came from. It is also a non-story as it is clear that Benn has done nothing wrong. Should Benn be deputy leader? Yes (for reasons that I have articulated on several occassions). However I do think we need to move away from the present party structures as they are presently organised. The party chair should NOT by de facto be a member of the Cabinet but should be elected by the membership and should have a voice in how the party membership can influence - and interact with - the party leadership.

Re: Hilary Benn and the deputy leadership (#11)

Im quite sure that Benn didn't mean to do anything wrong and I'm sure that he wouldn't let the shares he holds in any company affect his decisions - but to say that he hasn't done anything wrong is ridiculous.

I quite like Benn and would have/will probably have him as my second choice after Johnson, but I can't see him getting on the ballot now.

Finanlly, you say that this is an attempt to derail Benn's campaign before it starts. The problem is that it should have 'started' months ago. We're now days away from the nominations closing and he's only got a handful on nominations while most of the others are either close or already at the 45. This story is not going to make MPs think that they're backing a winner should they give him their nomination.

Re: Hilary Benn and the deputy leadership (#12)

This is the nub of the whole issue. MPs shouldn't simply back a winner; they should give the party the choice they deserve. It should rightly be the whole party, not just the Parliamentary party, who makes the decision as to who should be next deputy leader. If Hilary's name doesn't appear on the ballot paper, then - given he is the most popular contender by a mile - the whole process will be a farce in my opinion.

Re: Hilary Benn and the deputy leadership (#13)

Of course, I agree - but I'm speculating about what *will* happen, not what *should* happen.

Re: Hilary Benn and the deputy leadership (#16)

Bit like the John McDonnell scenario , then

Re: Hilary Benn and the deputy leadership (#17)

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Re: Hilary Benn and the deputy leadership (#14)

Glass House What exactly has Hilary 'done' wrong? This is a cheap attempt to smear him and I am fairly certain that it will not work - nor should it.

Re: Hilary Benn and the deputy leadership (#15)

It seems likely that he broke the Ministerial Code. There at least seems to be a case to answer.

Re: Hilary Benn and the deputy leadership (#18)

I for one don't think Hilary Benn has done anything wrong. It's a non-story. Look at the which newspaper broke the story - The Telegraph - and which day it came out - one day before nominations - and make your own judgement. Hilary comes across as straight as a die and is a great asset to our Government. I say that as someone who isn't supporting him in this contest (I'm a Cruddas man).

Re: Hilary Benn and the deputy leadership (#19)

I agree. I'm not having a go at Benn - I like him. I'm simply saying that the story will damage his chances of getting on the ballot.