'Ed Balls for Leader' - what utter boll**ks

I have a good deal of respect (or perhaps I should now state 'did have') for John Rentoul but his piece in today's IoS is just silly.

Why? For three main reasons:


1. He begins his article by referring to Tom Watson's alleged 'role' the so called coup against Blair in September 2006 but then goes onto makes it clear that Tom is not involved in any way at all - indeed Tom has posted about the phone call he received from Rentoul yesterday.

2. He provides NO concrete evidence of a 'plot' to get rid of Brown and replace him with Ed Balls - no one goes on the record (officially or unofficially), there are no letters or misplaced emails etc etc.

3. Ed Balls the next Leader of the Labour party? I just don't see it.

So in summary, it is a non-story that is simply fuelled by journalist innuendo and lazy reporting. Come on John, your better than this - aren't you?


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Re: 'Ed Balls for Leader' - what utter boll**ks (#1)

It could happen. When's the last time we had a real Northerner as PM? Ed Balls is clever, enthusiatic and sincere. He's been given a real job at 'Education' to prove himself and his media technique is improving. He's a 'man of the people', different from Milliband, who comes across as a bit of an intellectual. The British people don't like intellectuals telling them what to do, all that much.

Re: 'Ed Balls for Leader' - what utter boll**ks (#2)

I've got as much chance of becoming Pope as Ed Balls has becoming Labour leader.

Re: 'Ed Balls for Leader' - what utter boll**ks (#3)

Have things got to the state where we are already talking about the succession?

Swatantra, I agree understand what you mean by Balls' media perormance improving, but is that good enough? Won't we need someone who's more of a natural communicator?

Alan Johnson is in an enormously strong position now for the leadership, given Harriet Harman's difficulties. And there is something attractive about a working class Londoner becoming Prime Minister. (though is suppose that would describe John Major too)

Harman's so damaged she couldn't go for it, though there is obviously support for the "woman" campaign that she used for the deputy leadership. While I detested her use of the gender card for the deputyship, it make ar mor sense for the leadership, because it is a position with some power. I though arguing for a woman deputy was just a fig leaf covering the lack of equal opportunities for the leadership.

Given the likely strong support available for a good woman candidate, my money would be on Jacqui Smith, whose performance as Home Secretary has been outstanding. In fact, there are days when she already looks like a PM.

David Miliband seems to be suffering from being talked about too much for too long. I was particularly annoyed by the Spectator piece attacking Malloch Brown and the subsequent references in the national press saying "sources close to Miliband say the Spectator piece was spot on". Labour ministers briefing against other Labour ministers irritates me no end.

Most worrying of all is the continued positioning of John Cruddas, whose deputy leadership bid always struck me as the first round of a leadership tilt. What scares me is that has no politics beyond what it will take to achieve power. At least the Blairites (of which he was once one) had some ideology, as did those campaigning for John McDonnell. Cruddas has just adopted a stance because there is a section of the party with a leadership vacuum. If he ever became leader we would be a party in opposition for a very long time.

Of all the possibilities, I would go with Jacqui Smith.

Re: 'Ed Balls for Leader' - what utter boll**ks (#4)

Are you  out  of your minds??????? Ed Balls and Douglas Alexander have  probably helped deliver Labour's   next election defeat. Jacqui Smith is more famous for  her cleavage than her politics.If Gordon fell  under a  bus it would be Johnson or Straw, neither of whom (obviously ) I have much  time for. Balls  has  made such a balls-up that his career is over before it's begun and Rentoul  is an absolutely appalling sycophant  and a crap pundit......

Re: 'Ed Balls for Leader' - what utter boll**ks (#5)

No, no, I thought the point was that there's no-one other than Brown at the moment.  When I was watching the speeches at conference on you tube, I was somewhat taken by Ed Milliband, but they're all rubbish overall.  Image and speech therapy for the lot of them!

Re: 'Ed Balls for Leader' - what utter boll**ks (#6)

Alex, I think you are plain wrong about Jon Cruddas.  It was always about the policy for him and not personal ambition, which presumably is the reason why he did not accept a job in government.  To claim he has no politics is equally ill informed, as a cursory reading of the things Cruddas has written over the years demostrates. 

Your preferred option Smith has no politics I can think of particularly, save from being a Blairite ...but then Blairites were always more of a personality cult than about politics.

Re: 'Ed Balls for Leader' - what utter boll**ks (#7)

Firstly, Jaqui Smith is hopeless. She looks like a deer in headlights on camera, and lacks an independent mind. Also, there's a very good chance she'll lose her seat in the next election. Someone like that isn't viable for leader.

Secondly, Cruddas wasn't standing on overt policy positions in the deputy leadership election. His focus was on party reform, and delibrately said he didn't want to be deputy prime minister, but deputy leader. Even so, he's probably been the most successful deputy leadership candidate already about getting his ideas adopted. We have a how profile minister for housing now, and a commitment to more housing in general. This wasn't on the cards before Cruddas.

Re: 'Ed Balls for Leader' - what utter boll**ks (#8)

I like Jacqui Smith too Alex, but I'm still not fully convinced she's PM material.

To be honest, I don't think Straw or Johnson would do any better than Brown (although I would have liked Johnson to have been deputy leader).

Naturally, I'll give David Miliband a chance but I don't know if he's really good enough to be PM. He looks somewhat geeky and that doesn't play well with the public.

Overall, I think we should stick with Brown. I've actually been quite impressed with how calmly Brown has managed the various crises of the last few weeks and he certainly looks more statesman-like than anyone else in the Cabinet.

Re: 'Ed Balls for Leader' - what utter boll**ks (#9)

Iain Dale made a bitchy aside where he noticed the Watson remark about being "up north to deliver presents". Said the ex-Doughty One

What can it mean? If I were Ed Balls I'd be drawing the curtains, switching the lights off and hiding behind the couch...

Anyway Balls bigging up the Spice Balls for being thoroughly modern (mostly single) mothers makes him look more in touch than many of our leaders I suppose but alex is right, it's way premature to be talking of succession now.

Re: 'Ed Balls for Leader' - what utter boll**ks (#10)

Of course this is a non-story. Clinton used to say that if they couldn't get you on policy, they made personal attacks. Suggesting that Labour is about to ditch Brown is a form of personal attack to undermine him.

Brown will be leader for 6-8 years IMO because the next generation hasn't yet been tested in the "crucible". They've only just been given their places in the limelight this year. This is in big contrast to Blair and Brown who were given big (shadow) roles in their thirties, and effectively got tested out from about 1988 onwards. By the time they assumed power, they had years of experience under fire.

It will take time for Miliband, Jacqui Smith, Ed Balls and co to really show us what they are made of. It's quite possible that the next leader after Brown will be someone else altogether whom we may discover in a future cabinet reshuffle.