A blast from the past

Wow, is it really ten years since we last heard from that Thatcher-loving, platitude-spouting, talentless irritant? The Spice Girls I hear you cry? No silly, I am of course referring to Britain’s 50th Prime Minister, Sir John Major.

His appearance on this morning’s Andrew Marr show HERE served to remind us (in case we’d forgotten) what we’re missing: A weak and peevish little man with no discernable achievements from his six and a half years in the top job.

His attack on Labour’s “systemic sleaze” and “unscrupulous” behaviour in exploiting his own Government’s manifold episodes of sexual misadventure and corruption, was, frankly, a laughable double-standard.

Major was one of the least able men ever to become Prime Minister. His elevation in November 1990 was as much the result of Conservative MPs deciding they didn’t want Michael Heseltine’s regicide of Margaret Thatcher to be rewarded as it was an endorsement of Major’s own titanic political talents.

In many ways, Major was a more contemptible figure than Thatcher. He initially promised to build “a nation at ease with itself” but presided over a deep and lingering economic recession, effectively shut-down the UK mining industry, privatised the railways and told us to “understand a little less and condemn a little more” in relation to lone parents and the poor. His was Thatcherism without the redeeming quality of Margaret Thatcher’s certain leadership. Ideology without the conviction.

Like her great nemesis Francois Mitterrand, Thatcher made no plans for her succession, leaving no-one of any ability to carry forward her mantle. Having only entered the Cabinet in 1987, Major’s lack of experience in the political top flight meant he never stepped outside Thatcher’s shadow. His puppet-premiership was a dismal interregnum.

His twee and backward-looking view of Britain was an embarrassing and threadbare offering from the man given the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to lead the country.

His weakness in facing up to his internal critics on Europe made a mockery of Britain’s foreign policy, despite his earlier stated determination to put Britain “at the heart of Europe.” He even guffed-up the so-called ‘special relationship’ with the US, backing the wrong horse when he dispatched Tory reseachers to trawl over Governor Clinton’s time as an a Rhodes scholar at Oxford before seeing “Slick Willy” become president.

And his shabby deal to prop up his parliamentary majority with the support of the Ulster Unionists even prevented forward progress on the Northern Ireland peace process.

But the myth that Major generously bequeathed Labour a sound economy in 1997 is the biggest lie in British politics. What Labour inherited was an economy recovering from the ravages of the 1991 recession and Britain’s ejection from the Exchange Rate Mechanism on "Black Wednesday" in September 1992, which paved the way for interest rate cuts and renewed growth. Claiming credit for an economic upswing, following a recession he created, is a fig-leaf which deserves to be wrenched from his shrivelled reputation once and for all.

So there we have it. John Major: whinging, lightweight, no-mark. Let’s hope it’s another ten years before we hear again from him again.

And that goes for the Spice Girls too.

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Re: A blast from the past (#1)

Edwina.

Re: A blast from the past (#2)

He did mention that if Brown falls under a bus, he only has Straw with the stature to take over. Major on the other hand asserted that he had Hurd, Rifking, Heseltine, Clarke or Sheppard, were he to be hit by a bus.

Unless I missed it, no mention of William Hague being of the appropriate stature, who ultimately did take over as leader - nor the fact that it would have undoubtedly been one of his own backbenchers driving the bus!

Re: A blast from the past (#3)

Pathetic wind-bag.... Former PMs should have the dignity to keep quiet. Even worse if he is Cameron's hatchet man in this case.

Re: A blast from the past (#4)

This is just too much!

Speaking from the USA a few weeks ago, David Cameron said of the Prime Minister: "If he can't control his own party - people will wonder if he can effectively run the country."

That hypocrisy in itself should've caused uproarious laughter coming from him of all people.

Now we have JOHN MAJOR, with a straight face, saying that sleaze is systemic in the Labour Party. He who stood by liars who went to prison. He who conducted a four year affair with Edwina Currie when a government whip.

I never espouse attack politics but I think we should be very clear about setting the record straight on this nonsense.

Re: A blast from the past (#5)

Major as spineless as ever! What a whinger! The Tory Party were up to their necks in slease and immorality. Bare faced cheek; Marr should have asked Major about Currie, Parkinson, Mellor, and Piers Merchant, not to mention Aitkin, Archer and Hamilton. Stick to cricket, Major.

Re: A blast from the past (#26)

Clearly a foolish effort to get a rise out of people. You stupid old fool.

Re: A blast from the past (#34)

That remark wasn't aimed at you, of course, Swatantra. It was for our visiting nasty who has since been deleted.

Re: A blast from the past (#6)

Erm, and the economy now is...?

The amount the nation lost in the ERM debacle is considerably less than say, GB's selling of gold reserves at rock bottom prices, or the ineptitude of this government to negotiate IT packages effectively (NHS supercomputers anyone), or the amount that the treasury will lose as a result of the amount of default that will occur on Northern Rock.

Quite frankly, the economy was in good shape when Labour took over until the early 2000's. When GB started to take out huge amounts of debt in times when he should have been prudent and saving. We are in for a bit of a fall now as a direct result of this.

Most of the derogatory remarks you make about JM can be leveled against GB just as easily. The difference being that John Major did win an election. I very much doubt that Gordon Brown ever will. He has consigned Labour to at least a decade in the wilderness. 

 

Re: A blast from the past (#7)

...except that GB didn't sleep with Edwina Currie, and then spout on about 'back to basics'. The economy is in a cycle, its a fact.


Re: A blast from the past (#9)

In the downturn of a cycle, we may well be, but we are completely underprepared for when times get really bad. We have no cash left in the kitty and the treasury is probably about to call up Ocean Finance to get those few extra quid it needs. You cannot expect the good times to last forever, but we have been racking up deficits in public spending when the going was really good. We could have been prudent and saved. Instead we spent and spent and spent. We are in big trouble very soon.

Re: A blast from the past (#10)

And GB has not, of course slept with Edwina Currie. 

While in the 90's the Tories were busy screwing for Britain and there were a few dodgey notes in brown envelopes, we now see two full blown criminal investigations into the Party. Labour have been much more careless and dare I say it corrupt than the Tories in the 90's ever were.

Re: A blast from the past (#12)

The first investigation concluded in nobody being prosecuted. No politician will be prosecuted in this investigation either.

As for the Tories - remember Cash for Questions? Jonathan Aitken? Geoffrey Archer? Back to Basics? John Major's government was the sleaziest in modern British history.

Re: A blast from the past (#18)

25 years in opposition? I don't think so!

I still don't believe we'll lose the next general election in 2010. I'll look forward to reading your reaction if we do win!

To be honest, I would trust Mr. Al-Fayed over a Tory cabinet minister anyday. And I'm sorry, but I don't even think you believe Major's government was 'systemically honest'. It was the most corrupt government in modern times (and the most damaging). The NHS and state education were in ruins. The economy was weak. Our cities looked like ghost towns. We were still a backwards nation until Labour took over.

I think you're one of those Tories who just confirms the public's general perception of your party - that you are nasty and vindictive.

Re: A blast from the past (#24)

My goodness, I don't know quite where to start with a rant of that proportion.

All I will say is that I really think you need to research more about John Major's government. I remember those years well and they were a time of utter despair for this country - we had no hope and no future as long as the Tories were in charge.

John Major in his interview was pathetically trying to gloss over history and use Labour's current misfortune to try and warp people's views of his premiership.

The last Tory government was so corrupt and inept, it can quite easily be described as the worst in modern British history. It's no surprise Labour won a landslide overall majority of 179 in 1997. If Call Me Dave manages to win the next general election (which I still doubt), he'll struggle to get an overall majority at all.


You speak of 'leftist fantasy' when I think it is you who is suffering with right-wing fever. Let's remember you're the one who claimed we'll get put out of power for a quarter of a century! You couldn't even win Ealing Southall for goodness sake!

Re: A blast from the past (#25)

In fact I'll just repeat what I said on another thread:

People who support the BNP are generally racist, homophobic and authoritarian. The vast bulk of the Conservative party membership can be seen as the same.

Remember how nobody clapped at the Tory conference when Cameron said he supported civil partnerships?

Remember the Tory slogan "Want a n***** for a neighbour, vote Labour"?

Remember Section 28 - which most of today's Shadow Cabinet fully supported at the time.

Remember Baroness Warsi's campaign to get elected in Dewsbury where she ranted against gay couples adopting children.

Remember how David Cameron wrote the most right-wing, xenophobic Tory manifesto in 2005?

Remember how Thatcher blocked out the speeches by Gerry Adams causing the IRA to become more united than ever before.

Remember how Maggie's defence cuts led to the Argentinians invading the Falklands?

Remember how the Tories managed to reach unemployment of 3million, interest rates in double figures, inflation in double figures and successive recessions?

Remember how schools couldn't even afford text books under the Tories?

Remember how the NHS was strangled under Thatcher and people died because the waiting lists were so long and our hospitals resembled third-world countries?

Remember how Thatcher supported Apartheid South Africa and schmoozed up to General Pinochet?

Remember how Thatcher bribed policemen to go and beat the hell out of the miners whilst the government turned a blind eye?

Remember how David Davis supported capital punishment (and still does).

Remember the moral decline of our society when James Bulger was murdered and the pupils in Dunblane were massacred - symptomatic of Britain under a Tory government. And equally, remember that this is the first government since the second World War where crime is lower now than what it was when we came to power.

Remember Jonathan Aitken? David Mellor? Tim Yeo? Neil Hamilton? Geoffrey Archer? All lying, corrupt, dishonest men who are perfect examples of your average Tory.

Remember the sheer relief in 1997 when the Tories were kicked out of power and people celebrated up and down Britain as Labour came to government. People will remember that when they vote at the next general election.

Like elephants, the British people never forget. And they certainly won't be electing a bunch of elitist, neo-con, lying, incompetent, authoritarian, racist, homophobic, nationalist, small-minded, inward-looking, backwards Tories into power any time soon.

The Conservative party are an embarrassment to Britain. And I look forward to day when electoral reform is completed and we never have to see an ugly, shambolic Conservative government mis-ruling our country with an overall majority ever again.

Re: A blast from the past (#28)

How can a tapeworm wage war?

"Filthy northern and Scotch snouts"?

And you're denying that Tories are nasty and racist?

You're very entertaining Mr McSporran. Thank you for the uplifting and motivating reminder to Labour supporters of the type of empty-headed, Daily Mail reading, Guido contributing, negative, lying, hate-filled guttersnipes we're often up against. 

Re: A blast from the past (#29)

Just to point out to new readers that the angry Tory has had his posts removed.

I don't want people to think I was talking to myself!

Re: A blast from the past (#30)

yep, that did slightly confuse me. It's indicative of the Tories that even when they say civil partnerships, and not gay marriage, it still goes down like a cup of cold sick with the Tory faithful.

Re: A blast from the past (#32)

Errrr, wasn't it Labour who came up with the idea and nomenclature of civil partnerships - and I beleive this is wha they are still officially called. Is that because it might go down like a bucket of cold sick with some of the party faithful?

 

Re: A blast from the past (#31)

Ok then

 

To  call most Tories racist is ridiculous – some are, granted, but I’ve met quite  few Labour racists too over the years. Including a Cllr who told me I should f*** back off to growing potatoes in my f*****g s***hole that we should have just let burn, whilst implying I was of substandard intelligence because I am Irish.

 

The comments about homophobia and racism, I think looking back decades into the past isn’t really helpful when looking towards the politics of today – I don’t see any of the major parties (with one or two exceptions like my esteemed friend mentioned above) supporting anything like this today.

 

Remember Miranda Grell’s campaign where she called her opponents paedophiles?

 

Remember how David Cameron wrote the most right-wing, xenophobic Tory manifesto in 2005 – several policies from which have subsequently been implemented by Labour?

 

Your nonsense about Thatcher’s banning of Gerry Adam’s voice causing a united IRA is quite ridiculous. Having grown up in Northern Ireland, I can categorically say that has bugger all to do with anything.

 

Remember how Labour’s defence cuts have led to the deaths of several British servicemen in several wars (Iraq anyone?)?

 

Remember how we now have millions on disability benefit, instead of unemployment benefit because it flattens the figures? I refuse to believe there are 2 million people in this country who are too disabled to work. Having worked with some very severely disabled children I know that there are almost always jobs that they are capable of doing perfectly well.

 

Remember how schools can’t even teach people to read and write and inequality is still rising despite 10 years of ‘progressive politics’.

 

Remember how the NHS doesn’t treat people on the basis of clinical need, only to reach targets, condemning people to death? Billions thrown at it and people are still dying in unsanitary conditions.

 

Remember how Labour receive aid for Londoners (one of the richest cities in the world!) from the poor in Venezeula?

 

Remember how some miners took bribes from the USSR and beat up and intimidated miners who wanted to work? Remember them being refused the right to vote on whether they wanted to strike?

 

Not sure about David Davis’s views on capital punishment so he might believe in it – if he does he is a numpty.

 

Remember the moral decline of our society when recently a man laughed as he urinated on a dying disabled woman in the street, or the growing problems with violent crime in our cities and an uneducated under-class to whom violence is the only thing they know?

 

Remember Blunkett, Hain, Brown, Blair, Jowell, Harman, Prescott, Livingstone, McConnell, Hodge, Levy etc etc ad infinitum all being sleazy?

 

Remember how people now are turning their backs on Labour? They aren’t relieved any more. They can’t wait to get shot of Labour

 

The Labour party are embarrassing Britain. Our finances are going down the toilet and very soon we are all going to feel the squeeze. The city produces about 20% of our GDP and they are getting nervous. This should make us all pretty nervous.

 

Rather than try to sort out the problems in Britain we are seeing a bunch of numpties run around like headless chickens trying to save their own scalps. When the Tories get in, I am sure that the names will change once more and scandal will continue, but look at the state of the country today, it really is going to get shafted.

 

As for 25 years of Labour in opposition– I don’t remember saying that, but they really are going to have to do something pretty spectacular to win at the next GE or the one after that. No point in sticking your head in the sand and saying ‘but Tories are evil’ when Labour (and the Libs) are also scandal ridden, corrupt and downright nasty. Most of our current crop of politicos are self-serving megalomaniacs. Don’t stand up for them – make sure they do their jobs properly.

 

Stop being apologists and make sure they serve Britain and not themselves. There is much this government has done which is good, but they have also cocked up repeatedly and not learnt from their mistakes. Rather than congratulate them continually we should make sure they stop screwing up when they do.

 

Major’s governemtn was hardly inspiring and suffered from a high level of ineptitude and corruption – that’s why they got kicked out, but the current Labour lot have surpassed even this high benchmark of numptiness and as result can look forward to the same reward that he got – being booted out.

Re: A blast from the past (#11)

Come on Timka, you know that's rubbish!

You don't get ten years on consistent economic growth, low inflation, low unemployment and low interest rates by getting lucky.

The unemployment level under Labour has never been as high as what it was when Major left office in May 1997. Major failed to steer us out of recession in the early 1990's like Brown did in the early 2000's and the Major government (including advisor David Cameron) was responsible for the devastating Black Wednesday where so many people lost their homes as interest rates hit double figures.

Most importantly, it was Brown who made the Bank of England independent (which the Tories opposed). This has been the key reason for our economic prosperity and stability over the past decade. John Major would never have been so bold.

Re: A blast from the past (#19)

Yeh, sure!

Re: A blast from the past (#8)

Crikey, the labour party must be in deeper trouble than I thought if you're screaming so hard over something as trivial as this.  At least Major won an election - which is more than you'll be able to saw about the dour one currently 'in charge' of the country. 



Re: A blast from the past (#13)

Major (and the Tories) would have been better off by not winning the '92 election.

Re: A blast from the past (#33)

As much as I hate the Major Government, I have more respect for John Major than many of the colleagues that he had around him - the rebels and Europhobes who now run the Tory Party, or continue to inhabit its backbenches...

His autobiography is also a good read, for what its worth...

Re: A blast from the past (#35)

Where work Jorn Major now?
personal financial planning