Brown so far - the verdict

Following Brown's grilling by the Commons' liaison committee, now seems an appropriate time to briefly assess how he's doing...

Putting the headlines of recent weeks to one side - the funding issues, the misplaced data discs, etc - and concentrating on strategy and philosophy: how has the labour movement received their new leader after these first few months?

For people like me, who opposed Brown's candidacy from the left and supported a different candidate, there has been nothing in any of his public statements or declarations that suggests that we were wrong to do so.  I think we can feel vindicated: we argued that you couldn't put a piece of paper politically between Brown and Blair and he has continually demonstrated that to be the case: his early moves appeared to reinvigorate the New Labour project, bringing it back home - so to speak - as a project for fundamentally turning the Labour Party into a centre/centre-right party.  So the 'government of all the talents' (as long as they were non-Labour talents!!), the abolition of voting at party conference and now the reanimation of the old debate about the union link can all be seen in that context.  Philosophically, Brown continually refers to the deepening of Blair's public sector reforms and the role of the private sector in public service delivery.  The emphasis on Britishness is a new(ish) addition to this philosophical rightward shift.

With this in mind, I would have to assume that those Blairites who vehemently opposed Brown must be quite reassured (recent headlines notwithstanding) - they have got one of their own without ever having to stand a candidate.

The people who must feel betrayed and let down, I suppose, are those on the centre-left and centre who felt that Brown promised something different and clung onto a notion that Brown was a more labourist and social democratic figure than Blair.

Are my assumptions about the views of Blairites and the centre-left and centre correct, or do you feel somewhat differently?

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Re: Brown so far - the verdict (#1)

Politics has never been more boring. It doesn't matter who is Prime Minister, Brown or Cameron. It's like voting for the vice-president of IBM. This discussion will start to matter when politics isn't so exceedingly dull.

Re: Brown so far - the verdict (#2)

It isn't politics that's dull!  If it's true that electing our Prime Minister is like choosing a managing director (and I hope it's not quite that bad!!!) then that is far from boring: it means we have genuinely stumbled into a complete absence of meaningful democracy - the elected benign dictator.  If that is correct it is not a signal to just shrug and shout 'boring' - it is a reason to be more active and alert than ever in an effort to bring us back from such a brink.

Re: Brown so far - the verdict (#3)

I wasn't shrugging. Most of our political problems stem from people having certain pre-conditioned objections to them. If the arguements are less visceral, I think politics will start to be interesting.

I will give you an example. I am personally pro-life, noted in my opposition to the death penalty (although I can't find any rational arguements for the death penalty anyway), but I am pro-choice (albeit I think we should lower the limit to 22 weeks, but extend that limit to N. Ireland, and combat abortion with further implementation and discussion of sex education, contraception etc. as is seen in the Netherlands to have lowered the abortion rates to the lowest in Europe).

But I had always had trouble justifying legalising Euthanasia. But when debating it after studying 'Of Mice and Men', and researching arguements for and against it, I couldn't find any non-moral arguements against it. The trouble is that there is no proper debate about topics anymore, topics are given face-value glances, which only furthers the nauseating 'concensus' and 'bipartisan' politics. As if politics wasn't division by definition anyway.

Re: Brown so far - the verdict (#12)

No  surprises  here. As you say, Brown   has  proved the left exactly right, Dunc. So I hope you will  invite me to your Branch to  talk about the new West Yorkshire LRC.....and  join in   our activities  in the New Year!

Re: Brown so far - the verdict (#15)

Certainly very keen to join in any activities I can (as always) - will try and get you an invite to the branch/CLP.  The recent selection situation suggests I may not be all that influential however!

Re: Brown so far - the verdict (#4)

I'd have to say Brown so far has been disappointing, but to be honest I expected it to be this way.


I think you're way off the mark in terms of the Blairite view on him Dunc! It's not so much that there's a great deal of ideological differences between Blair and Brown - but it's more the style of leadership and attitude to reform that matters.


The most disappointing aspect of Brown for me is his social conservatism. The end of the super-casino which had been promised to the people of Manchester and would have provided 3000 jobs was a big disappointment. Not to mention his 'reviews' on 24-hour drinking, cannabis etc. All of which was simply pandering to the Daily Mail and reversed the social liberalism that the Blair government had worked so hard to achieve.


The next big disappointment is that there is no big vision. There are too many 'reviews' and not enough actual big decisions taken. And too much of Brown's programme for government has involved reversing Blair's attempts to reform or copying the Tories - not a wise thing to do.


So whilst Brown is not reforming enough in areas that require reform, he is not progressive enough in areas that require more progressive attitudes than Blair. I would prefer to see a more progressive taxation system, yet what we saw was tax cuts for the well-off in IHT (copying the Tories) and introducing a flat-tax for capital gains.


Whilst Brown was right to hands powers over from the executive to Parliament (and reversed the silly law which banned protests outside Parliament), he still hasn't said enough about the larger issues of constitutional reforms such as the Lords or English devolution.


And also whilst he's done the sensible thing by removing troops from Iraq, he's still clinging onto extending detention without trial - something for which there is no concensus at all.


The 'government of all the talents' didn't really work - I'd rather they were all Labour ministers; the clique around Brown are not the right people to have at the top and Brown's general dour personality does him, or the party, no favours at all.


Overall, it's been a mixed bag. But there is much to be disappointed with and we can only hope Brown will do better in 2008. Given YouGov have tonight put the Tories on 45% for the first time, there's a lot of work to do. But since there's nobody else in the Cabinet who looks or sounds like a potential leader, then I guess Brown's the only one who can see us through to the next General Election.

Re: Brown so far - the verdict (#5)

brown has yet to come up with a big idea. his greatest asset is that he is naturally prudent and moral. he could use oliver cromwell as his role model, by reversing the permissive society. 

Re: Brown so far - the verdict (#6)

Cromwell as his model??? I like the idea that Brown might emulate Cromwell and decide that regicide is the answer, but other than that, Cromwell is not exactly a great role model.

Re: Brown so far - the verdict (#9)

Any Labour leader who openly encourages the end of the 'permissive society' is not a leader worth having. Thankfully, I don't think Brown's quite that bad.

Re: what should Brown do? (#7)

We need to set some clear boundaries between ourselves and Monsieur Cameron. I would suggest a radical agenda for Herr Brown.

. Sweeping constitutional reform. 100% elected Lords. Constitution. Devolution to English regions, further devolution to Wales and London, decision by parliament override decisions by devolved regions. Confirmation process for appointed officials. Further changes to Commons and (Senate).

. Seperation of Church and State. Overturn Blasphemy act.

. Legalise Same-Sex Marriage, Euthanasia, Marijuana.

. Institutionalise Co-operatives.

these are just suggestions.

Re: what should Brown do? (#8)

Although I sympathise with many of those reforms, don't you think that enacting them would be just preaching to the converted?

I would start spending more on small and symbolic areas that would make a quick impact, and start attacking the tories for the cuts that they are going to have to make. It seems in the current malaise, we have forgotten that the Tories will have to make cuts, and this needs to be discussed more.

Re: what should Brown do? (#10)

Thoroughly agree jkitleft.

Re: what should Brown do? (#11)

Yes to co-operatives; their time has come, or I should say they are making a comeback. Better than nationalisation, better than private companies where profits are siphoned off to greedy shareholders; co-ops they are responsible social enterprises. But I'm not sure what you mean by 'institutionalise' them.

Re: what should Brown do? (#13)

Swatantra, that's a fair point, I think what I really meant was to make sure that they take place not only in public, but in private services.


Northern Monkey, I wasn't sure you would be so keen about the marijuana policy. Are there any policies you would suggest?

Re: what should Brown do? (#14)

To be honest, legalising marijuana isn't something I'd do but I wouldn't be too devastated if it did happen.

To be honest I think we're more likely to see the legalisation of voluntary euthanasia than marijuana in the near future.