Two Labour seats open selections

Hull East and Sheffield Central are among the new tranche of parliamentary selections. Both are being held under open shortlists.

Seat: Preseli Pembrokeshire
Held by: Con
Majority: 607
2nd place: Lab
AWS: No - open selection

Closing date for applications: 26 November
Shortlisting: 12 January
Hustings: 2 February
Procedures Secretary: Pamela Groves-Nation
Church View
Camrose
Haverfordwest
SA62 6JA
Tel: 01437 710400
Email: grovesnation@btinternet.com

Seat: Ribble Valley
Held by: Con
Majority: 14,171
2nd place: Lib Dem
AWS: No - open selection

Closing date for applications: 29 November
Shortlisting: wc 30/12/2007 & 6/1/2008
Hustings: wc 27/1/2008
Procedures Secretary: David Hinder
11 The Grange
Wilpshire
Blackburn
BB1 9JU
Tel: 01254 240937
Mob: 07918 101158
Email: D.Hinder@RibbleConsulting.plus.com

Seat: North Somerset
Held by: Con
Majority: 6,016
2nd place: Lib Dem
AWS: No - open selection

Closing date for applications: 30 November
Hustings: 14 December
Procedures Secretary: A Lindsay
36 Hayward Close
Clevedon
BS21 5ER
Tel: 01275 870239 or 07967 319410
Email: alistairlindsay@hotmail.co.uk

Seat: North Dorset
Held by: Con
Majority: 2,244
2nd place: Lib Dem
AWS: No - open selection

Closing date for applications: 30 November
Hustings: 5 January
Procedures Secretary: Dennis Wardleworth
50 Queens Road
Blandford Forum
DT11 7LA
Tel: 01258 453481
Email: denniswworth@bournemouth-net.co.uk

Seat: Banbury
Held by: Con
Majority: 10,797
2nd place: Lab
AWS: No - open selection

Closing date for applications: 30 November
Hustings: 28 January
Procedures Secretary: Henry Goodman
6 Calthorpe Road
Banbury
Oxon
OX16 5HS
Tel: 01295 709434
Email: henry.goodman@btinternet.com

Seat: Chelsea and Fulham
New seat
AWS: No - open selection

Closing date for applications: 3 December
Hustings: 17 January
Procedures Secretary: Sue O'Neill
71b Munster Road
London
SW6 5RE
Email: cfclp@hflabour.org.uk

Seat: Sheffield Central
Held by: Lab
Majority: 7,055
2nd place: Lib Dem
AWS: No - open selection

Closing date for applications: 3 December
Shortlisting: 20 January
Hustings: 2 February
Procedures Secretary: Liz Donaghy
c/o Sheffield District Labour Party
Trades & Labour Club
Talbot Street
Sheffield
S2 2TG
Tel: 07793 209478
Email: donaghyliz@hotmail.com

Seat: South West Surrey
Held by: Con
Majority: 5,711
2nd place: Lib Dem
AWS: No - open selection

Closing date for applications: 28 December
Hustings: 7 February
Procedures Secretary: David Black
27 Binscombe Lane
Godalming
Surrey
GU7 3PP
Tel: 01483 428827
Email: swslab@dpblack.co.uk

Seat: Hull East
Held by: Lab
Majority: 11,747
2nd place: Lib Dem
AWS: No - open selection

Closing date for applications: 31 December
Shortlisting: 29 Feb
Hustings: 17 March
Procedures Secretary: Bernard France
Tel: 01482 705855
Email: Bernard.france@virgin.net


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Re: Two Labour seats open selections (#1)

what Alex fails to mention about Hull and Sheffield selections is that the NEC decided to make both open despite the party's presumption that within a region if 2 male Labour MPs retire 1 selection should be AWS and the other open.


We can speculate why these 2 seats needed to be open,  'friends' of the leadership, 'friends' of  trade unionists on the NEC?


What is clear is that advancing the numbers of women Labour MPs has been kicked into touch.


Just what did our 'feminist' deputy leader do? It appears she cannot hold the line at the NEC for the party's stated policies. 

Re: Two Labour seats open selections (#2)

There's nothing to suggest that one of these open seats won't go to a woman. The fairly recent Bolton South East open selection resulted in the Yasmin Quereshi being chosen.

Re: Two Labour seats open selections (#3)

If open selections went 53% women 47% men as corresponding to the UK population split I'd agree. But HenryG knows as well as I that isn't how open selections end up.


The party put in place rules and procedures to try and ensure a fairer 'playing field' for women, and to try and achieve a better women/men Labour MP split, but for whatever reason, the NEC finds it convenient to ignore them.   

Re: Two Labour seats open selections (#4)

Yes I appreciate that. There comes a point though that by automatically assuming that all open selections will result in men being selected, we actually risk reinforcing the very patterns and prejudices we want to change.

Re: Two Labour seats open selections (#5)

I don't assume anything about the result of these selections.

I reacted to the NEC ignoring its own rules and procedures, which if followed would have resulted in one selection being AWS and one selection being open. These rules and procedures were put in place because of the history of open selctions overwhelmingly chosing males and the party, as a whole, deciding it did not want this practice to continue. 

The NEC chose to ignore rules and procedures, no explanation was given to party members. I think this is wrong.

Re: Two Labour seats open selections (#6)

DenDen you're absolutely right in insisting that the Party stick to the Rules that they themselves put in place. The Rules have been breached; and its not the first time. If a woman is not selected in at least one of them, then I'll...I'll be complaining to the NEC.

Re: Two Labour seats open selections (#7)

I  understand that Nottingham South is about to start and will be an AWS.

Re: Two Labour seats open selections (#8)

Good job these are open selections. The sooner we get away from the sexism and unfairness of AWS and start to select on merit, the better.

Re: Two Labour seats open selections (#9)

I'm not sure we ever did have selection based on merit. Certainly sex has been a more over-riding factor in selections than merit in the past

Re: Two Labour seats open selections (#10)

Don't really want to second guess the thinking of the NEC - I'm sure things will become clearer once various NEC members who circulate written reports have reported - but I am not sure that this is a breach of rule (although arguably it is a breach of the spirit of the rule).


The last two seats to select in Yorkshire and the Humber did so using all women shortlists (Leeds West and Leeds North West - Leeds West has an MP retiring, North West a notional labour majority following boundary changes), so it is within rule to make Sheffield Central and Hull open.


I'd imagine the fact that Leeds has no women MPs while one of the three Hull MPs is a woman (selected in 2005 on an AWSL) and  two of the five Labour MPs in Sheffield are women may have informed the thinking of the NEC in this area.


Also bear in mind that Calder Valley MP Christine McCafferty has announced that she is retiring, so this selection will automatically be an AWSL, so 3 of the 5 selections in the region so far are/will be AWSL.




Re: Two Labour seats open selections (#11)

andy - you lump them together and say 3 out of 5 is not to bad. The Leeds North West seat is currently not held by us and should not be part of your 5, who knows whether we will take it against a LD incumbent.


The Leeds West seat was decided as AWS some time ago, and correctly so in my opinion to give Leeds the chance for a Labour women MP. Calder Valley has to be AWS and will not increase the % of women Labour MPs in Yorkshire region, merely keep it stable.


The NEC had 2 seats from the region at their meeting, both Labour male MPs retiring. They should have directed that 1 be AWS and 1 open. It's only by sticking to the rules and procedure that we can be sure of increasing the % of women Labour MPs.


The NEC's chucking the procedures in the bin will only lead to suspicion - just which favourite 'son' will inherit - and it's nearly always a 'son'.    

  

Re: Two Labour seats open selections (#12)

DenDen, you seem slightly confused about the rules and procedure. The rules are that an equal number of winnable seats (where an MP is retiring or where a seat is notionally labour after boundary changes) within a region (in this case Yorkshire and the Humber) should be open and AWSL, not that every other seat where an MP retires should be AWSL. This gives the NEC flexibility to take into account the existing gender balance or representation within a local area, so if there was once pocket within a region where all MPs are male (e.g. Leeds) more than half of seats that come up could be AWSL, while being able to take into account local conditions (ideally to avoid any more Blaneau Gwent type situations).

As I said, I can see an argument that the spirit of the rule has been broken because Leeds North West and Calder Valley are much less secure than Hull East or Sheffield Central, but as I understand it, the letter of the rule has been followed.

Re: Two Labour seats open selections (#14)

Andy, I agree that a regional and sub-regional view is important. I speak as a man who had his eye on a seat myself (one of those you've mentioned) that was then declared AWS. I accept though that to be succesful electorally and in Governement you need to be able to appeal across the genders (nothing quite like a role model or a few hundered actually) and get different (in this case, gender) perspectives on policy issues. I'm sure there'll be other opportunities for me.

Take where I was born, Scotland, for example, where 2 Labour MPs with thumping majorities whose seats are right next door to each other, Rosemary McKenna (in Cumbernauld & Kilsyth) and John Reid (Airdrie & Shotts) have announced their retirement.

Scotland has a grand total of 7 female Labour MPs out of about 40. It was given dispensation from applying the internal party rules about AWS last time round because of the boundary changes. And its about to lose 1 of its longest serving female MPs - yes, there isn't a current female Labour MP representing a Scottish seat who was elected prior to 1997. 

If the gossip eminating from circles close to one of the female members of the NEC are to be believed then they've agreed that Cumbernauld & Kilsyth will be an open selection (cause there needs to be more male Labour MPs from Scotland!) and they have delayed a decision on Airdrie & Shotts. 

Third hand gossip told me, cause I went looking for info after hearing about it, that the air in the members tea room in North Lanarkshire Council was blue with Labour Councillors threatening to resign the whip if the seat was an AWS and that a group of them had got together and written to the NEC with their complaint.

Was the decision delayed so that the rules, as you've stated above, could be ignored and both seats be determined as open .... ?

I've just had a look at the Council website and there doesn't seem to be a single female Labour Councillor in either Airdrie, Shotts or the neighbouring town of Coatbridge with less than a handful (out of about 40 or 50) from some of the other local towns. What happened to the party rules that all other regions with multi-member wards had to adhere to where there had to be a minimum of one woman candidate in every ward? 

The Labour Group in the Scottish Parliament is only as balanced as it is because the party dreamed up a twinning system, like there was in London for the GLA too, where each group of 2 CLPs had to select 1 man and 1 woman. At least one of those woman has already been hounded out by the local male dominated party.

Are we about to see yet more exemptions for Scotland because the male dominated party kicks up a stink about their own self-interests? I'm sure they'll say they want more women in politics - just as long as it doesn't happen in their back yard.....

When are the Scottish party, and its female General Secretary, going to realise that continuing the male, matcho political style of the 1980's belongs exactly there and is probably a contributory factor to the electoral misfortunes that have befallen them.

Come on lads, get a grip! Progress is a good thing.

Re: Two Labour seats open selections (#15)

Scotland has a grand total of 7 female Labour MPs out of about 40

I think Scotland is the region with the lowest % of Lab female MPs. Followed by North East and West Midlands (at around 21%).

Re: Two Labour seats open selections (#13)

andy - to quote you "The rules are that an equal number of winnable seats .....within a region (in this case Yorkshire and the Humber) should be open and AWSL .." - so tell me then just how many "winnable seats" will come up in the region before the next general election - 2, 6, 12?  It's only if the NEC know the answer can they determine as you suggest. As they, you nor me know, decisions about AWS/open have to be taken with the information at hand at a NEC meeting.


As I said - the Leeds West decision had been made some time ago, Calder Valley did not require a decision as it was automatically a AWS due to woman Labour MP retiring. Leeds North West had been made previously.


So at the relevant NEC meeting the NEC had 2 seats to decide upon, and they chose open for them both. Surely that's worthy of comment?


It's not as if there's not suspicion about whether the NEC cares about advancing the number of potential women Labour MPs. The 2 by-elections in the summer were decided by the NEC to be open - in the case of Ealing after the GC had voted to have a AWS and then their 'open' selection had 2 men on it, no women at all!