Northampton South

This one's really interesting, particularly as it looks like the Midlands and Kent will host most of the big battles this time around.

A new seat, no candidate selected yet, notional 2000 majority to Labour, and a question mark over whether Tony Clarke is standing as an independent.

Anybody got any info on this, or whether there are any names in the frame yet?

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Re: Northampton South (#1)


Has it been confirmed re Tony, I thought there was an internal inquiry going on?  

Re: Northampton South (#2)

has it been confirmed re Tony Clarke - isn't there some kind of inquiry taking place, which could lead to him being reinstated in the party?

Re: Northampton South (#3)

Northampton South is an absolutely hell hole of a CLP. The members are either inbred or dinosaurs. Some are both. Get a group of 5 Northampton South members together and there will be about 9 factions. 

Tony Clarke was expelled for standing against a Labour candidate. He didn't accept an all woman shortlist and stood against a Labour cancidate as an independant. He may be as left wing as Ken Livingstone but he is in no where near as talented and the party is best off without him. He will not be reinstated.

The best thing that can happen is for the Region to take control of the selection process of Northampton South which is in desperate need of a good candidate who has no truck with either Tony Clarke or the sensible but (percieved) loyalist Northampton North.

Re: Northampton South (#74)

Gordon Bennite just about sums up the state Northampton South; the Independents can get on their bikes. But Region shouldn't step in although they should help in drawing up a shortlist of four decent candidates.

Re: Northampton South (#75)

Saying "the Independents can get on their bikes" is partly true.  Tony Clarke is a different proposition to Peter Evans.  Tony won comfortably, doing what he has always done: Portraying himself as the populist 'Northampton Man of the People'.  As he said in one of his leaflets, he believes in 'the politics of bread and circuses'.  The unspoken proviso being that he hands out the bread and cracks the ringmaster's whip.  He was, of course, helped by the Cobblers/Sixfields issue.

Peter Evans did abysmally, coming in fifth behind Clarke, Scott and the two Lib Dems.  That's truly bad for asitting councillor.  Tony's coattails obviously weren't quite as easy to hold onto as Peter thought. 

The whole problem was caused by Lee Barron's sudden exit (so sudden that a Labour glossy leaflet was delivered to at least part of the ward, urging the electorate to 'Vote Barron and Evans').  Had it not been for Barron's departure, it would have been a Barron and Evans ticket, leaving the obvious question of what Clarke would have done.

And the $64000 hypothetical question is: If Clarke was readmitted to stand for Labour, but Evans wasn't, would Evans, in his role of "President of the Independent Voice", still field his promised full slate?

As for drawing up a shortlist of four decent candidates, are there four decent candidates to list? 

 

Re: Northampton South (#4)

All the above sounds like a real shame - with the creation of a new safe Tory constituency in the south of the county, Northampton South loses a chunk of outlying Tory territory and is now notionally a Labour marginal again.

Re: Northampton South (#95)

Quite so Joe,

The boundary change has been very kind to Labour so lets make the most of it. 

 

Re: Northampton South (#5)

Some of the names mentioned... Lee Barron, Anjona Roy, Andy Sawford, Ashley Riley.  The longer time frame now until the General Election will mean that the internal inquiry into what happened with Tony Clarke will be completed, so this could mean Tony coming back into the Party, although this would be quite unprecedented

Re: Northampton South (#6)

I’ve heard they are about to start the process as an open selection.  I presume CWU will back Lee Barron and he will be in a strong position. Andy Sawford would get national backing but it might not help him here.

Re: Northampton South (#8)

Why does Andy having a national profile (which is mostly through his work which we all have to do) obscure his party work in Northamptonshire over the last 20 years?

Re: Northampton South (#9)

Quite right - it shouldn't.  I know Andy's very engaged at national level, just wasn't sure how active he is locally.  If he is then great.  He'd be a strong candidate I think.

Re: Northampton South (#7)

Internal inquiry? What internal inquiry?! Tony Clarke auto-excluded himself for standing against a Labour candidate. Seems pretty open-and-shut to me. He's out of the Party for 5 years and there's no way he can get back in, particularly in time for a parliamentary selection.

It's time Northampton South got a decent candidate that the CLP can unite behind. Then we can all get back to working towards our common goal - returning Northampton South to the Labour column and help return a fourth term Labour government.

Re: Northampton South (#121)

Could you explain what 'returning Nottingham South to the Labour banner' means? Are you suggesting that those of us who agree with Alan Simpson rather more often than we agree with Alistair Darling ought not to be in the Labour Party?

Re: Northampton South (#122)

Dur. I've been systematically misreading 'Northampton' as 'Nottingham'. Apologies for the brain fart; disregard my post!

Re: Northampton South (#11)

It will be an open selection, not AWS

Re: Northampton South (#13)

Ah but when though....??? As they wait they lose good candidates, for instance an excellent local candidate is up for South Northants next week.
Can Northampton CLP afford to mess about???

Re: Northampton South (#14)

I've heard that the selection should start in the next few weeks.   As you are local Barry, any views on the other candidates mentioned, or anyone else likely to come forward?

Re: Northampton South (#12)

I don't think this is right about Anjona Roy - I was at Wellingborough's hustings and she was allowed to stand. Were'nt very good though performance wise! Anyone have any more info on this ?

Re: Northampton South (#16)

BTW

Watch this space this Thursday. Regional officers to visit Northampton South CLP to finally kick start the selection process???

Re: Northampton South (#17)

About time if the above is true ! As I said before, there's a really good, young and local candidate up for the unwinnable South Northants next week - It's a pity candidates like this have to go for unwinnable seats when there's a constituency up for the winning like Northampton South

Re: Northampton South (#19)

I think it's some man from Wellingborough.  I don't blame him not standing in Northampton South.  Most say Anjona Roy is certain to win the nomination although perhaps Barron and Chapstick will put up a challenge.  She is close to Tony Clarke I understand.  I spoke to some guy called Chris at conference who told me that Anjona Roy has much support. Are you sure they are going to start the selection process next week? I thought it was going to be in the new year.

Re: Northampton South (#18)

Barry,


Have you got a name for the candidate for South Northants?

Re: Northampton South (#20)

Tony Clarke broke Labour Party rules and was quite rightly expelled from the Party and should never be allowed back. The best solution for The Labour Party would be for a candidate from ouside of Northampton South CLP to be selected. None of the local people up for it would be any good. Anjona Roy was a useless councillor who managed to lose the safest Labour ward in the town,and all the others are tainted by association with Clark and his cronies

Re: Northampton South (#21)

I dont know why some of you guys want to hide behind a hidden identity (apart from the press) But if you wanted the truth on this one you only had to ask.

What happened was very clear The Regional Party at the request of individuals in Northampton interfered with the selection process at the local government elections, broke its own rules on all women shortlists, ignored wrong doing in other wards, deselected a sitting councillor without his knowledge, reselected him, endorsed three candidates for two seats in the same ward, and then sacked me on the morning of the nominations by text message without any explanation what so ever.

I could go on.............................. my full report, along with that of the agent at the election tell a very different tale to that which the "loyalists" above want you to hear, including the involement of the MP for Northampton North and the then Party Chair Hazel Blears.

But as is said above it means little to me now, I am not even a party member. But my reason for posting is to say how cowardly it is of some of the posters above to talk about others in the way they do. Anjona Roy was a good and decent Borough Councillor and to suggest otherwise whilst hiding behind a hidden identity is very low.

In a similar vain my researcher is not "still in prison" (he shouldn't have been there in the first place) But to suggest that he fell on his sword for me or anyone else is shocking. He was not guilty full stop. And having questioned myself and Peter Kilfoyle for 4 hrs each under caution, Special Branch had the option of taking a case against us if they wished. They didn't. 

Perhaps like the Regional Party ithey are scared of the truth in case their part in those events proves their own involvement and guilt?.

Subsequently though (the Regional Party not Special Branch!) they are trying to cover their arses by going down the "auto expulsion" route but that won't wash with those who know what was happening at the time. In the meantime the regional officer has been spirited away and the Regional Director, Em "I Lie" Oldknow has written a report full of errors and untruths to the NEC which they recieved before she had even started any enquiry.

In that report she accuses a male muslim member and a gay male member (expelled since) of acting in support of my candiditure because they wanted a man elected.

When I was expelled a further 4 members were also expelled alongside me. John Dickie and Geoff Howes had nearly 90 membership between them but they were not prepared to live a lie and fight against the Party ruining itself. We failed, they have done. Good luck to them, but they wont recover until they own up to and deal with their demons. However in respect of an appeal put in by one of those expelled members I have kept my powder dry and not revealed to date all of the facts. You will think I am crazy but I still feel the party should have the option of sorting out it's own problems first.

As for the next general election, of course I will stand, and of course that will change the result, and considering my council seat of Castle Ward  was the safest Labour seat in the constituency (never been lost) until I topped the poll in May, then I expect to do very well. I would of course been happy to try to regain the seat for the Labour Party, but I will not consider standing or rejoining whilst they act in the manner which is undemocratic, and untruthful.

My guess now is that the local party will be landed with a young fresh candidate wanting to cut their teeth. Any good candidates will run a mile in the opposite direction.

So there, you only had to ask.


 

 

Re: Northampton South (#22)

Candidate up for South Northants is from Wellingborough. Will try to find out his name. Academic anyway, the point I make is that here is someone young and looking to cut their teeth, and yet because of prevarication or underhandedness the winnable N'pton South misses out....

Re: Northampton South (#23)

I have got in touch with Wellingborough CLP and I think he is called Matthew May.  I agree with the last post about South Northamptonshire.  It’s a new seat where you can make your mark and cut your teeth.
 

As far as Northampton South is concerned with Clarke out of the running then it would appear that Anjona Roy has an even greater chance of taking the PPC for Northampton South.  My guess with Clarke not making a comeback his supporters will switch to her.  However, I have been told out Ashley Riley used to work for Tony Clarke so perhaps could yet throw his support behind him.  This matters as Northampton South should be a Labour seat!   

Re: Northampton South (#24)

You all sound so sad tying to predict who may or may not pick up a poisened chalise. Have you ever stopped to think for one minute that who gets the seat as the official candidate is a secondary issue as to whether it could have been won by the Labour Party?

Perhaps that's the problem in today's modern party? everything is concentrated on the individual gain rather than on the bigger collective prize?

It was never my intention to air the party's dirty washing in public but it seems that's the way the Party wants it.

Re: Northampton South (#25)

Tony, how is it sad discussing who may stand or be selected for the Party on a Labour supporter's blogsite? Isn't it sadder for an independant to be rubbishing the Party in order to split the Left vote in what should be a Labour seat?
Are you so sure you are so special that you could actually win as an independant? Will you out canvassing support for yourself at the same time as Anjona Roy who you so touchingly defend now?
 Who is concerned with personal political gain now?

Re: Northampton South (#26)

After reading these blogs last night I got in touch with a couple of contacts I have in Northampton.  One of them told me the Leader of the County Labour Group, John McGee is going to enter the selection race in Northampton South.  How does he compare Barron, Riley and Chapstick? Does he have enough support to put a strong challenge to frontrunner Anjona Roy?     

Re: Northampton South (#27)

I don't think I am rubbishing the party? I am just telling the truth.

I guess you are right about the normality of discussing the "who" question but the problem of doing so on a blogsite is that most of the rumours come from those who plant them themselves.

As for Anjona, if she stands or anyone else then of course we will be on different sides, my point was not to necessarily be supportive, if I have to fight the seat as an Independent I would rather do so against one of the Regions patsies than against a friend but it's not my choice. My reasoning was to say how unfair it is for others to criticise individuals so openly behind anonymity, the comment on this board about irregularities in the Wellingborough selection was outrageous and actionable.

My main reason for posting was to correct a few  untruths that had crept into the posts above, to  inform people that there is a lot more to this issue than they think and to say the Labour Party will have to deal with its errors at some point and there reluctance to do so at the request of the CLP and  the local District Party will jump up and bite them at some point.

And all of this could have been avoided. My personal opinion is that we or that should read, the Labour Party could now lose both Northampton Seats, and those who started this whole series of events are the ones who should be held to account, not those of us who were the victims of their spite. 

 

 

Re: Northampton South (#28)

Obviously its an internal matter for the Northampton Party to solve, but it helps no one to stand as an Independent.

Re: Northampton South (#30)

Its a matter for the Regional and National Party to sort out more than the Northampton Party.

As for standing as an Independent, do I have any other choice? The party has lied, broken it's own rules, denied me the chance to stand and covered up others involvement?

Should I just walk away after 20+ years membership and say, oh well lets forget it? 

Re: Northampton South (#29)

Tony, we only run the risk of losing both seats if you continue on your ego trip. The only winners if you have the audacity and arrogance to run as an independent will be the Tories. That will be your legacy in Northampton - something to be proud of?


And I find it intriguing that you boast about representing a formerly safe Labour ward in the town when YOU were the MP who presided over the loss of Northampton South to the Tories in 2005! Maybe if you'd put the same effort into your work as an MP and expended the same energy that you appear to have found recently into that last General Election, then Northampton wouldn't be in the state it's in today.


Completely and utterly shameless behaviour.

Re: Northampton South (#31)

Ego trip? as I have said it is not of my doing.

As to the General Elections past tense. I won in 1997 overturning a 16,000 majority, held it in 2001 against the odds and lost in 2005 with many others on a swing against the party.

On each occasion the local CLP received little or no support from the Region or national party.

As I said before if the Party is looking to blame someone for the mess they are in then they have to look further than looking to scapegoat those of us who were victims of their incompetence and  malicious acts

 

 

Re: Northampton South (#32)

You may be a casualty of the Party disciplinary mechanism but without authority and disciplined organisaton we would never amount to anything.

Standing as an independant candidate and splitting the Left vote is indifensible under any circumstances.

You had a difficult choice to make in May. You could have chosen to remain as a candidate for the Party or even walk away, not standing at all.
 
Instead, you chose to stand against the Party and are now choosing to knowingly split the vote in Northampton South, running the risk of letting a nasty, right wing Tory in.

Northampton Labour will not take lessons on political integrity from you, Tony.






Re: Northampton South (#34)

I was never a casualty of party discipline as I broke no rules, the party did.

Without the truth, and a party willing to follow its own rules we have no democratic party.

And let me clear i never had the choice to remain as a candidate as I was informed by text message that as an endorsed candidate that I should not submit my nomination.

When I asked under what party rule or reason they party were asking me to withdraw, the party refused to give me an answer. 

One thing I never do is walk away, the truth is the truth and if that is unpalatable to the Region or the national party then tough.

I have kept my powder dry for 6 months to allow the party to sort out the problems they created and to own up to it's errors and misgivings. Without them doing so then the same could and probably will happen again.

The party have decided that it is best swept under the carpet, they hoped I would go away. I even offered to assist them in their enquiry, but they have not held one.

Now if you are happy with a cover up then fine, If you are happy with a party who lie and cheat and break the rules for it's own purposes at the request of individuals then fine,  if you are happy with the party's selection procedures being undermined then fine, but that is not a party that I can support.

Integrity? mine is still intact. Can you say the same hand on heart about the party at Regional level? or would you rather I printed here the full report of what happened for all to see and judge? 

Re: Northampton South (#36)

Just for clarity, the above post is from me not Peter. Peter joined this very interesting blog whilst visiting me earlier (see below) and left me logged into his new profile.

He is as annoyed as I am at the lies and smokescreens which have been set up surrounding this whole issue and is one of many in Northampton, including current party members and including some very loyal members who have refused to be bullied into covering up the regional offices actions

Re: Northampton South (#33)

Well what a blog to come across!! intertwined with hate puss and bile. I was expelled alongside TC and others in this comedy and tragedy of errors and can confirm that what TC has said is true!!! on a personal basis I was phoned up at 11pm on the night before nominations closed to be told by a regional officer the faceless Matt Forde that they had de selected me (even though i was the sitting cllr) on the basis that they "heard" from Les Marriott thankfully ex deputy leader of the group and chum of the feeble Keeble, that he had heard that i was not standing!!! total lie!!!!

 

What were they playing at. I and others, over the past 4 years had rebuilt the trust that Northampton needed in our party following the disgraceful and naive previous group headed by the now leader of the group Keith Davies!!!

 

As the Chief Whip of the group, and the person tasked by the Branch to ensure the correctness of the selection of a new candidate following Lee Barrons sudden departure i can confirm that TC was selected properly and in line with the party rule book, and then selected again and endorsed by the region!! 

 

The Regional Party then turned tail due to the pressure of others!!

 

Tess Scott selection was a total breach of the party rules and she was not eligible to stand!! Equally the selection in St James was also against party rules and the current leader of the Group Keith Davies, who claimed he would never stand for election again!!! was not even on the panel!  

 

Don’t think i say the above in spite or malice, but more on wanting put the record straight. The regional party and the national party will not allow me to do this within the fold then it leaves me no option but to respond to the faceless bloggist on this site who are keen and quick to criticise others unfairly. I truly believe in being Open and Transparent, pity they don’t. Don’t hide behind false identities let’s see who you are.

 

last point, the party doesn’t need really to worry about Northampton South our support is growing and as the president of Northampton Independent Voice  I am happy with that support from all quarters. We would like to thank Gordon for not holding a snap election as will now enable us to put a full slate of candidates for both the County and General Elections when they come!!

 

  

Peter Evans

 

Re: Northampton South (#35)

II have only just had the opportunity to read the comments about Northampton South.The anonymous comments are so dispiriting that frankly after almost 40 years in the party I'm glad that I was expelled-such meanminded and spiteful nonsense from CitizenSmith,WestHamfan,and the others suggest that they are either regional party officers covering their backs or former party members now in other parties!
TC did a remarkable job winning the Northampton South seat twice without much help from the party nationally or regionally.In that period there was great entrhusiasm for the party-evidenced by the fact that we had the largest majority ever on NBC-we ran for four years as a minority administration and 8 years with a large majority.Throughout that period we had a fully functioning party in every ward and a lot of positive things were happening.Tony by the way played an important role on the Council as chair of Environmental services and that paved the way to his election success.
Now sadly the biggest political group in the town are former LP members.
It is laughable to read the anonymous political analysts talk about winning the seat-with whom? The six members who turned up to the regional election school at the TGWU offices?Three of them were supporters of Tony!
The two constituencies in Northampton are in a dreadful state,neither is fit to fight an election,let alone win one!
Someone wrote about the dinosaurs in the CLP and the factionalism going on-chance would be a fine thing.
The last by election before May in Spencer ward was run by the regional office and the Liberals took a safe Labour seat.It hardly came as a surptise-the organisation was chaotic! I felt desperately sorry for Anjona, one of the seriously able younger Councillors who seemed likely to turn things around.She was left with a horrendous task and on top of that then given the job of agent in last may's disaster.

Much of my life has been involved in the Labour party here,I jave been very proud of the work that we have done over the years,but I want a proper inquiry into the recent events.As Castle ward secretary,confronted with the sudden resignation 'for personal reasons'of the group leader Lee Barron,with no candidates left,I believed that we in the ward did the right thing in selecting Tony-the issue of a woman only short list only appeared in a letter to all women members -it was never mentioned by the regional office to me!
The shameful behaviour was compounded when the regional panel selected a woman who had not been interested in putting her name forward when the party asked for candidates and who by the way lives outside the constituency and in fact was not eligible to stand even by the regions own strictures!

So desperate was the region to achieve her election that they produced scurrilous leaflets-using Lee Barron as agent and not Anjona, and managed to spend over £800 in getting her elected in a traditionally safe Labour seat.The fact that she beat the Lib by 18 and trailed Tony by about 200  shows only the traditional loyalty we had built up over 40 years in thew ward.
What meagre resources the party had was taken away from marginal wards to save the regional officers blushes!
More than anyone I want to see Binley hammered-he is an arrogant brute-but he will not be beaten by anonymous piety and pleas for a dubious unity.

There is a deep vein of disillusionment running through the local party-the pathetic council election results should demonstrate that-5 seats!
had the party allowed tony to stand it is highly probable that we would have made gains-and in other places pragmatic decisions allowed the rules to be used in the interests of the party_St James ward was a good example-was the last minute selection there in accordance with the rules? At least at castle we had observers from the LGC and the CLP!

If the CLP is ever to recover then there needs to be a full and open and honest inquiry and people need to be honest-and that includes being open about their identity-or are they so unsure of their facts that they seek the cowardice of an anonymous tag?

John Dickie
 

Re: Northampton South (#37)

Whilst i have no intention of getting caught in this family tiff the following puts some of the claims of the indie's and Mr Clarke into question:

Northampton South
Region: East Anglia
MP Unknown (changed seat)  (LAB) <table border="0"><tr><td>Electorate </td><td>65,049 </td><td>Turnout </td><td align="left">60.06% </td><td>Top</td></tr><tr><td> </td><td>2005 Votes </td><td>2005 Share </td><td colspan="2">Prediction</td></tr><tr class="LAB"><td>LAB </td><td>16,671 </td><td>42.67% </td><td> </td><td>43.79%</td></tr><tr class="CON"><td>CON </td><td>14,512 </td><td>37.14% </td><td> </td><td>41.56%</td></tr><tr class="LIB"><td>LIB </td><td>6,132 </td><td>15.70% </td><td> </td><td>8.59%</td></tr><tr class="OTH"><td>OTH </td><td>1,754 </td><td>4.49% </td><td> </td><td>6.06%</td></tr><tr><td>LAB Majority </td><td>2,159 </td><td>5.53% </td><td>  Pred Maj </td><td>2.23%</td></tr><tr><td align="left" colspan="5">Results for 2005 implied from new boundary calculations</td></tr></table><hr>Northamptonshire South
Region: East Anglia
MP Unknown (new seat)  (CON) <table border="0"><tr><td>Electorate </td><td>74,135 </td><td>Turnout </td><td align="left">64.99% </td><td>Top</td></tr><tr><td> </td><td>2005 Votes </td><td>2005 Share </td><td colspan="2">Prediction</td></tr><tr class="CON"><td>CON </td><td>24,779 </td><td>51.43% </td><td> </td><td>56.49%</td></tr><tr class="LAB"><td>LAB </td><td>11,429 </td><td>23.72% </td><td> </td><td>25.01%</td></tr><tr class="LIB"><td>LIB </td><td>8,676 </td><td>18.01% </td><td> </td><td>9.85%</td></tr><tr class="OTH"><td>OTH </td><td>3,297 </td><td>6.84% </td><td> </td><td>8.65%</td></tr><tr><td>CON Majority </td><td>13,350 </td><td>27.71% </td><td>  Pred Maj </td><td>31.48%</td></tr><tr><td align="left" colspan="5">Results for 2005 implied from new boundary calculations</td></tr></table>
Taken from Electoral calculus they show a) that under the new boundaries Labour would have won in 2005 and b) that the creation and activities of the Clarke indies hand the seat over to the Tories and practically make it a safe seat for them. Now you can dress that up as much as you like but i call that uncomradly and selfish.

Re: Northampton South (#38)

It hasn't worked, just link to it instead.

Re: Northampton South (#39)

http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/ go to england l-q and then Northampton South.

Re: Northampton South (#40)

What is selfish and uncomradely has been the behaviour of elements within the local party who have run a campaign to ensure that TC is not selected as the PPC for the seat.
Given the recent history,spreading misinformation,deliberately lying and putting self before the interests of the people of Northampton-comradeship seems to be especially short supply!
If TC had been half as bad a member as some seem to imply then the obvious thing would have been to allow him to put his name forward for selection and compete against any other candidate-then everyone could judge.
As it is now,the bureaucrats have won and socialism has gone out of the window.
the people of Northampton South are likely to be offered an ignorant tory brute or a time serving party apperachnik-Northampton has a proud record of electing ionoclastic members with a mind of their own-well at least Bradlaugh,although it could be argued that paget was far from being another party hack.
Tony's success in castle Ward,despite the Party throwing more resources at their candidate than anywhere else in the town suggests that there still is a spirit of sturdy independence.
It's a great pity that the party don't want to harness that energy.
The selfish and uncomradely are those who are not prepared for open debate-who hide behind secret names.

The Lib-dems have an interesting history of back stabbing and skulking-it would seem that these days they are not alonr
John Dickie

Re: Northampton South (#41)

Andy Sawford has pulled out of the selection race for Northampton South.
 

I have heard that if Gordon Brown had called a snap election then the East Midlands Labour Party would have imposed Lee Barron as the candidate. Can anyone in Northampton confirm this as true?
 

Lee Barron is trying very hard to appease his friend Tony Clarke.  I understand this is because that in a proper selection process Lee Barron needs the support of some constituency members.  He wants Tony Clarke to get his allies still in the party to support him.  This is the only way he feels to beat Anjona Roy.  Ashley Riley is using the same tactic.



Re: Northampton South (#42)

Shame Andy is out, good lad.

All this is familiar to us all, in my case it reminds me of the excuses and tactics used in Leeds in the late 90's to justify the setting up of the Socialist Alliance. In the end your either in the party or not and if not then your excuses ain't worth jack!

Re: Northampton South (#43)

Hear Hear Parishpumpspin!

Andy has got more political sense than to go for a seat that means, if won, a perpetual war with the CLP and local activists.

Re: Northampton South (#93)

How can he pull out of something he has never been in?

Re: Northampton South (#44)

So just to be clear your suggesting that our tactics were to get Lee Barron to stand down from his safe Labour seat, get selected by the branch in his place and then convince the Regional Party to intervene and impose an unnecessary AWS, choose an ineligible candidate, deselect a sitting councillor (the group chief whip) on hearsay, reselect, endorse my candidature at 11pm the night before nominations closed and then sack me by text message the next morning without reason, all in order that we could set up an alternative party?

In the end you are either so far up the backside of the party that you can't see fault however much it stares you in the face or your not real.

The chairs and secretaries of both the CLP and the district party confirmed all of the above and both parties passed resolutions asking for an inquiry.

The agent for the election confirmed the above in her report.

But it suits you to suggest we acted out the above charade as excuses and tactics to set up outside the party?

I feel very angry at the fact that I will have to re fight for my old parliamentary seat from outside the party, and I feel sad that as a result the party is likely to lose both elections in Northampton North and South.

But none of this is of our doing, and the more the party covers it up the worse it will get for them.

 

Re: Northampton South (#45)

Yes we are all just apologists for the regional party, after all the adage of "always fight from within" clearly means nothing to us and in the end only Tony Clarke understands and the rest of us are just idiots.......

You want to prove your party credentials? Committ to backing the party's candidates in both Northampton seats whether they are your friends or your worst enemy....but you won't cos even those of us miles away from the action know that you detest your ex parliamentary colleague and that all this is just your recentment you havn't a pitch at getting your parliamentary salary and expences back (and if that uncomradily Alex it pales into insignificance compared to the bile address at party officials by Clarke and his mates).

Re: Northampton South (#46)

Oh dear, i wondered when reasoned arguement would turn to pointless ranting.

I don't want to prove my party credentials! They chucked me out of the party! And I don't want back in unless they clean themselves up a great deal, and anyone accepting what happened as OK should question their own reasoning as to why they are members?

For the record though what my feelings are for my ex parliamentary colleague (I take it you mean Sally Keeble?) are neither here or there despite her being involved in this whole sorry affair I have no strong feelings for or against her. But I wish I could say the same was the same in reverse.

As for my parliamentary salary and expenses? are you for real? Do you have any understanding of the the phrase "There is life outside of politics"  

And as for bile adresses at Party Officials? name them, explain all? You can't just go around making accusations without having to back them up. I can prove without a shadow of doubt every word written above, and I would expect you to do the same.

And who is Alex? 

 

Re: Northampton South (#47)

The pointless ranting started at about bloggs no. 34/5, perpetrated by your supporters, John Dickie and Peter Evans.

You seem so blinded by the vehemence of your argument you are unable to see what the rest of us seem to, ie that it is your supporters that persist in using intemporate, nasty language.

It is indeed a pity when self righteousness spills over into vitriole and bile. Last desperate attempts to get outsiders to accept your version of events?

Answer the fundamental point, Tony. How can you justify standing against a Labour candidate, only to split the Left votes at a GE???

BTW.. is the forementioned group (Northampton independant voice) a political Party? Are you a member?
Membership? Funds?Constitution?

Power is the key. But its easier always to be in a permanant state of opposition, isn't it Tony? No hard choices or real decisions...



Re: Northampton South (#48)

Tess Scott has worked in Northampton for many years. Stop being so petulant Peter, Tony, Dickie and co just because you lot lost and are now a laughing stock in Northampton.

Re: Northampton South (#49)

[Why didn't all of this post?]

 

You turncoats should be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves.
 

To suggest that Tess Scott was not eligible to stand is outrageous. Everyone you only spread these lies because she beat turncoat turned Lib-Dem supporter Peter Evans by over 80 votes (when he was the sitting councillor!)

 

You know as well as everyone else on this board that to be able to stand for Council, you either have to live in an area or work in it. Tess Scott has worked in Northampton for many years.
 

We are all sick of your lies, deliberate inaccuracies and slights of the hand. Tony Clark is actually turning out to be worse than Binley!

Stop being so petulant Peter, Tony, Dickie and co just because you lot lost and are now a laughing stock in Northampton.
 

Re: Northampton South (#50)

I’ve just looked at this blog for the first time today and am amazed at the self-delusionary, self-indulgent posts of Tony Clarke and his cohort of turncoats.

I couldn’t agree more with Citizen Smith. How can you justify running against a Labour candidate? Allowing a Tory to re-enter the Commons? That result will be the price of your vanity.

Tony, you always made your views of Sally Keeble well known when you were an MP; how spineless it is of you to deny them now. You have shown your true colours over the past couple of days: brutal and blatant self-interest. 

Northampton Independent Voice? Tony’s Turncoat Lackies more like. Interesting to note that the Electoral Commission have yet to receive any registration documents from you or your ‘president’.
The people of Northampton have rumbled you.  Pack up and move on.

Re: Northampton South (#52)

Thanks for that reasoned view, as for my views on SK everyone knows she is not exactly my cup of tea but I really don't give a fig either way.

And as for any election result that will be nothing more than the price of the Party's continued denial and corruption.

Pack up and move on? I have done. Or does the Party think it can or should have a say in me standing as an independent? 

Re: Northampton South (#53)

Gordon,

Tess Scott lives in Kettering Constituency, The Party imposed an AWS and sent letters to women members in Northampton (including my wife) stating that they would only be eligible to apply for selection if they lived in the Borough of Northampton.

Tess is the mother of Jack Scott, Sally Keebles Intern and we were informed applied after being contacted by Sally.

We asked the Party how she was eligible and whether or not other members in Kettering Constituency or indeed any of the other surrounding constituencies had had the same opportunity to apply and surprise surprise they never answered. 

Re: Northampton South (#51)

It seems that the pointless ranting began when people started having a go at Anjona Roy early on in this thread and mentioning my former researcher for no reason. But I am happy to have a sensible debate with anyone on this issue and to answer your questions.

John Dickie and Peter Evans are not my supporters that are ex party members who were also expelled because of the party's rule breaking. John is an ex leader of the Council with 43 years party membership and Peter as explained was the group whip on the council before being deselected without his knowledge.

I care not what outsiders believe, but when the facts are backed up by those still in the party and holding office then it becomes a bit churlish to deny them.

I can justify standing against a Labour candidate in the East Midlands because the East Midlands Party is corrupt and not deserving of any support until it sorts itself out, they have now destroyed the party in Northampton and it's recovery will be slow and difficult. As for the left vote, that left the party a long while ago, where have you been?

Northampton Independent Voice is a movement that will become a Party if and when needed (Thanks Gordon for giving us the time) To date all election expenses have been by the individual candidates.

Power is not the key, or at least not at any price, and during my 9 years as a Councillor and 8 years in Parliament I have never been in opposition until now.

Standing against the party you have given twenty plus years of your life to is a very hard decision indeed and was for me at the last local elections and will be again at the general.

But having been denied the chance to stand for selection or election even at local government level for the party then what are my choices?  

As I have said before I have given the Party 6 months to  put things right and to respond to the local party's requests for an inquiry but that has fell on deaf ears.

I don't want a row on here but I want swallow blind loyalty at the price of weakening  party democracy.

As I have said if you want me to post the full report then I am very willing to do so. But I can't help thinking that the party would have been far better off dealing with its own problems in house. 

 

Re: Northampton South (#54)

the facts speak for themself. the party breached its own rules.

May i say i am not a lib dem supporter never have been or will be!!

Also in support of Anjona Roy, as cheif whip of the group she most certainly was a compitant cllr which is more than could be said for most of the Labour lot on the council today!

One question though, was Tess Scott a previous Lib Dem member? can any one help? I have it on good authority that she may have been? if so who is the turn coat?

Not to be to brutal Tess Scott was not elligable to stand as a candidate as the letter was circulated only to women within the Borough and that they could only apply if you lived in the Borough, Tess lives in the Kettering Constituncy. This is nothing to do with the rules for standing for council but the rules setout by the party to stand as a Labour Candidate. I dont make the rules but we are always being tod to standby them untill they decide to bend them!

This is not about Tess per se, i am sure she is a lovely person  it is more about the underhandedness of the regional office to preclude people from standing. 

I also point out that TC took a huge vote and 1st past the post and topped the ballot with nearly twice the votes than others standing including myself. 

So watch this space, if this was emulated across the new seat we would see an Independant MP elected and Maybe two across the whole town!! So perhaps thats why good candidates are looking at Northmpton South as not being a good bet if they wished to go to Parliament at the next GE for Labour. Pity!!!! 

What is clear now is that if TC did stand as a Labour Candidate then we may have seen a Labour MP returned!! Pity!!! but hey thats not our doing! And if people knew me  what i was and am they would know only to well i dont like bullies and this is evident when i stood shoulder to shoulder with Lee Barrons Collegues from the CWU at the 2003 Borough elections as they to where precluded from standing as a direct result of local and regional interferrance about thier selection. Fact they werent liked due to thier openess and frankness. 
 
So why doesnt the party learn by their mistakes! only theycan can answer question!!! but what a Pity!!!


Re: Northampton South (#55)

Would that the Party only agree to hold an inquiry so that at least we would have our day in court.

I accept that by standing against the party we broke the rules-but we would argue that there were extenuating circumstances and that what i did as castle ward Secretary was in the best interests of the Labour party-and many party members locally would seem to agree with me.When Lee barron told his group that he would be suceeded by a 'big hitter' in the ward there was considerable press speculation.This led to a very positive'bounce' within Party circles and a bizarre fit of petulance from Matt Forde in the regional office-press speculation was to him a more important uissue than recovering the situation in a key ward where the then labour group leader had resigned unexpectedly!


Gordon Bennite(an unusual oenname all things consifered) has misunderstood the situation regarding Tess Scott.Of course she is eligible to stand under local govt.rules but my point was that the letter sent out by Emilie Oldknow to all women members in Northampton's constituencies indicated that members had to live within the constituency boundaries.Ms.Scott lives in a neighbouring constituency.The selection would have been fine if the offer had been open to all women members in Kettering constituency too-but was it?


As a young man I was a member of a party that believed in 'democratic centralism'-all decisions were taken by higher bodies of the party and were inviolate.Democratic centralism works fine in a rigid authoritarian party where the central committee takes all the decisions.

I was dismayed to find such practices in the Labour Party.


When Lee stood down we,the officers of the combined branches tried to persuade him to hang on until we could have the election over and then pick a candidate from the whole membership-we also took the view that Lee as leader was the figurehead of the election campaign and was important.

He was adamant and as comrades we respected his wishes-we then tried as a ward to resolve the problem that the party had by finding a popular and well known candidate and we know that Tony's candidature worried our political opponents.


Our watd meeting that selected and endorsed Tony was the best attended for ages-indeed it had more members than the original selection that was overseen by the regional officers.


I firmly believe that we did the right thing by the rank and file members of the local ward and gave the people of castle ward a good and articulate councillor.


Tony was selected by the members of the local eatd-Tess Scott was selected by three regional exec. members and local ward members were not allowed to participate in any way shape or form.We were denied access to the candidates,we were prebvented from giving candidates a leaflet explaining the special needs of the ward-in truth we were expected to go out and work our socks off for someone we had never met!


The strength of the party I always beloeved lay in its ordinary members, and wherever possible their wishes and aspirations should be understood.


In all my conversations with Matt Forde I recognised that I had broken the rules by going ahead with a selection meeting,although it was attended by both officials from the CLP and the LGC and as far as I know noone from the region has complained to them.

In good faith we believed that what we were doing was in the best interests of the local party in castle ward.


A great deal of insinuations and interpretations have been placed on our actions.We did not act as a sinister clique for Tony, we are not cronies or groupies,we are not conspirators or dinosaurs.


Everything we did was motivated by the best interests of the party and castle ward in particular.I represented that ward for 30 years-my wife is still the County Councillors-we are proud of the work that has been done in that ward over the years.

If common sense had prevailed castle would have returned Tony and Peter as labour Councillors-if Tess Scott was really so keen then I'm sure that she could have been selected in St Crispins ward without any difficulties and we might have had two councillors there too.

I repeat what I said at the start-I would welcome a proper internal inquiry so that the party can move forward.I would like to put the record straight without the cheap and nasty illinformed comments of anonymous commentators and i would like to see a number of talented and valuable comrades restored to membership of the party.

And for the record I do not include myself-this last few months has been a bitter and miserable time and I really do not wish to be a member of such a meanspirited party.But U o want to see justice done.

And by the way Gordon Nobottle-Tess beat the Lib Dem by 18 not 80- and at a cost of over £800 for her election that makes her the most expensive vote gatherer in Northamptons history!

John Dickie

Re: Northampton South (#56)

I apologise for the grammar in this last piece and the eccentric use of capital letters-but I blame the technology(and that I'm sure has nothing to do with the gregional office!)
John Dickie

Re: Northampton South (#57)

Sorry to return I have just read Gordon Bluebottles letter again and I see that he pointed out that Tess Scott beat Peter by 80 votes-that is true, as indeed is the 18 ahead of Swinn-but then Tess was capitalising on the work that the LP had done in the ward for several decades-and Peter was competing within a crowded foeld on the ballot paper with no logo
And of course he did not have the huge resources that the region handed to Ms.Scott.
And it does take a long time in the ward to get known as'that labour  bloke'
John Dickie

Re: Northampton South (#58)

What sickens me most about this rubbish is the insult to those MP's, like Harold Best (1997-2005) who had real independence of thought and principal but NEVER once have left the party, be it headquaters, regional office, the PM, war or MP's they disliked etc that they had difficulty with.


Northampton is now the new Reading, seats lost to ego and pomposity.

Re: Northampton South (#59)

Is it by any means certain that Brian Binley will stand for the Conservatives in the new Northampton South?  His strength came from the rural part of the old constituency, where he lives, so it might make more sense for him to stand in the new Northamptonshire South.

That would raise the obvious question of who would stand for the Conservatives in Northampton South.  Some of the smart money should be on Councillor David Palethorpe.  He's got a safe Tory ward (Billing) on the council, and, from a Tory perspective, he ticks a lot of the right boxes.

He'd certainly be a challenge for either Barron or Roy. 

Re: Northampton South (#73)

Brian Binley has been confirmed as the candidate for Northampton South Conservatives this week and the inofrmation has been released in the press.

Re: Northampton South (#60)

Have we entered the realms of censorship?

I made a posting in answer to Peter Evans's questions: "One question though, was Tess Scott a previous Lib Dem member? can any one help? I have it on good authority that she may have been? if so who is the turn coat?", pointing out that Anjona Roy used to be a member of the Lib-Dems, and asking if this made her a turncoat by his standards.

It seems to have disappeared.  Unfortuante glitch, or Labour doing what it does worst?

Re: Northampton South (#62)

A. Roy was indeed a Liberal, I am informed. For the record, I have today spoken to a couple of Northampton Party members I know and she certainly has a terrible local record.

Her supporters here are no doubt protecting her with a view to her going for the Parliamentary seat. Up against T. Clarke as an independant??? how will that work???

heard an unsubstantiated rumour that Tess Scott also used to be in the dreaded Liberals.

Northampton South does seem to have  a problem with Labour to Liberal turncoats ( and it appears the other way too) Paul Colcannan, was it? Melanie De Cruz etc etc

Also for the record, it is the worst kept secret in the city that T Clarke dislikes and distrusts S keeble MP so Tony, tell the truth. You seem to be accusing many others of dishonesty but being economical with the truth yourself.

Re: Northampton South (#63)

Paul Concannon had a memorable last council meeeting as a Labour councillor, when he went head-to-head with Lee Barron over the privatisation of the St Giles Street post office.  Needless to say, a pretty lightweight clash, though.  Concannon then had a brief independent spell, before becoming a Lib-Dem.

Mel-de-Cruz became a county councillor largely because Anjona Roy moved heaven and earth to get her elected (one has to wonder why, given Ms de Cruz's not particularly obvious talents).  The Lib-Dems welcome to her was partly because she gave them enough members at County Hall to get them a political assistant. She then beat Anjona Roy for her seat on the borough council (Anjona becoming so desperate that she offered to help deliver Tory leaflets, in an attempt to reduce the Lib-Dem vote).

Labour MP material? 

 

Re: Northampton South (#64)

truly unbelievable. Check out A. Roy's own account of last May on the Party officiial website and the MPurl thing/ women's forum.

hate those that seek to blame others when their own nonesense goes pear shaped!!!

how can regional office not step in and sanction A. Roy??

Re: Northampton South (#69)

for the record I do not trust Sally Keeble and we have never been friends, but I don't neccasarily dislike her, I have no strong feelings of hate for anyone.

But I do hate what she has done to the Party in Northampton and I feel that her involvement in all of this sorry and sad affair is the real reason that the party cannot recover unless they deal with what happened openly.

But I guess that is also the reason why they wont investigate. 

Re: Northampton South (#61)

 John Dickies comment that: "If common sense had prevailed castle would have returned Tony and Peter as labour Councillors-if Tess Scott was really so keen then I'm sure that she could have been selected in St Crispins ward without any difficulties and we might have had two councillors there too." seems pretty sensible, but raises the obvious question of why Tony Clarke couldn't stand in St Crispin.  After all, he lives in that ward.

Re: Northampton South (#96)

I offered to stand in St Crispin Ward on the Monday evening before nominations closed as a way of bringing some peace to the table. Despite my branch being against the idea I agreed in the spirit of unity and went for interview with a Regional Panel the night before nominations closed (Tuesday). The interview panel said they wanted to interview me for Castle Ward! I said "Their isn't a vacancy in Castle" and asked the regional officer Matt Forde who was present to clarify. He stayed silent and the interview panel said "We are just doing as we have been asked".

They then called me back in and said "congratulations you have been selected for Castle Ward" I repeated my concern and asked for an explanation but none came forward.

I phoned Peter Evans and we assumed that Tess Scott had withdrawn.

30 mins later Peter got a phone call from Matt Forde telling him that he had been deselected as "they had heard" he didn't want to stand. And that he had been replaced by me!

I told Peter to phone them back and be clear with them that he was the sitting councillor and that he had never withdrawn and that they had no right to deselect him.

30 mins later Matt Forde phoned me and told me that although I had now been selected by the branch and the Region and been endorsed that I should not submit my nomination papers the next morning. I told him that I was the official candidate and that if the Party now had three candidates then they needed to sort it out not me. 

All the time this was going on Sally Keeble was over the road in a restaurant trying to convince Aziz Rahman who had withdrawn from St Crispin to change his mind. Ian Riley (West Mids Regional Director) sat in a room on his own on the telephone to all and Sundry throughout. Earlier that day he had also tried to get Aziz Rahman to reconsider so that no vacancy existed.

Iftikhar Choudary, who had been invited to stand by Sally was selected in St Crispin. The two women candidates who had been unsuccesful in the AWS farce of the Saturday before were never even informed of the new vacancy nor invited for selection.

The following morning I was told first by message and then verbally by Matt Forde that I could not submit my nomination form. I asked under what ruling I was being denied doing so as an endorsed candidateand got no answer.

My nomination paper and Peter Evans paper were with the official Agent. Tess Scotts nomination paper had been submitted days before by Sally Keebles secretary.

Myself and Peter decided we wanted no more of the deceit and lies and as such we submitted without party endorsement as Independents.

Re: Northampton South (#65)

Meanwhile, in another part of the forest the dinosaurs and inbreds got on with coming to terms with the disaster of last May's elections, sorting out their differences with the Regional Officers and preparing for the selection of their next parliamentary candidate.

Re: Northampton South (#66)

Yeah. And I'm going to be the next Chancellor of the Exchequer

Re: Northampton South (#71)

I gues you're just a half empty rather than half full kind of person. I'll let Gordon know your aspirations.

At an adjacent part of the forest I did see the moving forward taking place with out blows being thrown or lynching of the regional director. But maybe that cos' you'd class me as inbred.

Re: Northampton South (#77)

And it is written that a carpeted river crossing will be given to a top man in the Potteries.

Re: Northampton South (#79)

But given that the Top Man in the potteries has severe and real threats from those with the leader of rigged elections being the namesake of mythical beasts as annouced this week, and the carpeted river crossing has a history of confusing targets and friends,  all is not well outside the forest. Perhaps indeed the party will have to call on those in the forest to save the day, regardless of inbred parentage and historical speciesism.

Re: Northampton South (#81)

But in the meantime what will become of the dwellers of the forest who are suffering under the maw of the blue meanies and yellow perils who take their away their fairs, lights and fireworks.

Re: Northampton South (#87)

If you mean the Elected Mayor of Potteries central I can't think of a more appropriate person to crash and burn in that nightmare environment than him......

Re: Northampton South (#67)

I hear the Labour Party in Northampton is worried that the Lib Dems might be become the main the oppoistion to the Tories in Northants County Council.  This would happen if the May election results are repeated in 2009.

Re: Northampton South (#72)

The Lib Dems have no chance in taking over Labour as the opposition in the County, they hardly ever even bother fighting by elections outside of Northampton (see the Croyland ward by election in Welllingborough on Thursday).

It was only in the Northampton Borough elections that they found a full slate and even then they had to wheel people out of mental institutions to do so.

Would you reveal your source so that I can tell them personally how their maths don't stack up?  

Re: Northampton South (#83)

Surely the Northants County Council has an unassailable Blue majority?
Deputy leader presently one Mark Bullock, special friend of A. Roy??

Re: Northampton South (#84)

Apologies, should have clarified that 'Bully Boy Mark Bullock' is actually the Deputy Leader of the Labour Group on the Northants County Council?

Re: Northampton South (#94)

Citizen Smith - such prussic acid dripping from your keyboard!  NCC is blue but not unassailable, and certainly not likely to be swamped any time soon by the yellow peril.  You would know that, if you were a local activist.

More worrying, though, is that a comrade regards it as acceptable to make snide insinuations about the personal lives of other comrades, when there is no relevance to the tale.  That is muckraking (not that there is any muck to rake) and entirely beneath contempt.

If you are a comrade.  I'm not convinced.  I think you're a journalist, planted here to stir things up, so you can write it up as a juicy article.  Never mind the damage you could inflict to the activists you so maliciously undermine, or the CLP generally, eh? 

And if you really are a comrade, is it not so much easier to trot out anonymous nonsense on a web blog than to put these views forward at meetings, with people actually knowing your identity?

Now I think it's time for me to fly back to my own part of the forest to join my prehistoric and inbred friends and comrades.

Re: Northampton South (#70)

You say that "I offered to stand in St Crispin Ward on the Monday evening before nominations closed as a way of bringing some peace to the table.

Did you submit an application for St Crispin?

 You also say: "Despite my branch being against the idea I agreed in the spirit of unity".  If it was your suggestion, and your branch was agains it, with whom did you "agree" this? 

Re: Northampton South (#76)

Yes I did submit an application on the Tuesday.

No it was not my suggestrion. It came from the LGC executive who met on the Monday night with regional officers who were trying to find a way forward.

Therefore I agreed it with the LGC executive. 

Re: Northampton South (#78)

Thanks for clarifying that the idea of you standing in St Crispin was an LGC suggestion.

I'm sure that you will understand that your writing that "I offered to stand in St Crispin Ward on the Monday evening before nominations closed as a way of bringing some peace to the table" did rather give the impression that the peace-making initiative was your suggestion. 

Re: Northampton South (#80)

Happy to clarify. The problem though was as soon as the LGC had come up with an out for us all, and I had agreed to apply for St Crispin, then others in the party  started to try to sabotage it. Including Sally Keeble and Ian Riley who tried to get Aziz Rahman to (who stood down because of ill health) to reconsider and stand for the seat.

Ian Riley's phone calls to Aziz were nothing short of bullying imlying that Aziz would be doing something legally wrong because he had withdrawn.

Aziz has since put in a written complaint about Ian Riley's behaviour which surprise surprise has not yet been answered.

Aziz along with Pater Evans were then accused by Emilie Oldknow (Regional Director EM) of acting in the way they did because they both wanted a man elected. Aziz as a Muslim and Peter as a gay male were horrified at this stereotypical accusation. 

What an example our regional offiicers set for the party! 

Re: Northampton South (#85)

Thanks again for clarifying.

How long before the meeting did Aziz step down?  It must a have been a blinding flash of inspiration for the LGC: "Hey! I've just had an idea!  Tony could stand in another ward!"  "Another ward, you say?  Novel idea, but where, that's the question?"  "What about the one immediately across the road from the Labour Club, St Crispin, where a vacancy was recently created by Aziz unfortuantely having to stand down?"  "That's it! Brilliant!".

And it is quite possible for a Muslim man, or a gay man to want a man (either any man, or a specific one) elected for reasons other than their religion or sexual orientation. There is such a thing as 'playing the race/gay card', and it rather sounds like Aziz and Peter are doing so.  I assume that Ms Oldknow didn't refer to their respective religion or orientation?

Re: Northampton South (#88)

Aziz had been ill for around 2 months prior to the election. But he withdrew about the Wednesday or Thursday before the nominations closed.

He had said to me that he felt he ought to stand down as he was not up to the canvassing about 3 weeks before, but as I wasn't standing (and had no intention of doing so until Lee Barron stood down and the branch insisted) then I offered to help Aziz.

But once all the infighting started he lost spirit and wrote to the party withdrawing.

He is only now just getting back to good health.

I think the problem with Emilies report is that those reading it get the idea that the whole issue was one of people being anti AWS. But the branch made it clear to the region that this was not the case, but more that the AWS was not valid. The Borough Group of 10 prior to the election had 3 women members 30% and at the time of Lee Barron standing down 4 of the 10 Labour held seats had women 40% and all women in both constituencies had already been contacted twice to gauge interest. 40% of held seats is good by any standards, unique I would guess in the East Midlands, but still they persisted.

The other unanswerable question is why mention Aziz and Peter acting in a set manner because they wanted a man elected? It is an outrageous accusation irrespective of their sexuality or faith.

Peter and Aziz are very angry at being singled out in such a fashion without any reason/. Particularly in a report to the NEC which was written before any inquiry was instigated.

In addition the now sitting councillor for St Crispin should not have been eligible to stand as he failed to declare information on his form which should have been declared. But like others he was placed in the seat.

At my selection on the Tuesday night I submitted a written CV on my suitability for St Crispin Ward, asked to be selected for St Crispin Ward at no time mentioned Castle Ward where there was no vacancy, and yet I was still selected for the Castle Seat in my view on purpose to prevent me standing. It is a lie for the Region to suggest I had the opportunity to stand as an official candidate, and others will witness that fact.

Why people still in the party want to continue to cover this all up is beyond me? 

Re: Northampton South (#82)

I understand that the LGC is chaired by one Anjona Roy?
Also that she was the Agent?

Re: Northampton South (#89)

you understand wrong. Chris Grethe is the LGC chair, the secretary at the time Steve Croke resigned in protest at Regions interference and I know not who replaced him.

Anjona was the agent for all the candidates except Tess Scott whose papers were submitted via Sally Keebles office and whose agent was Lee Barron.

Anjona's agents report is worth reading. 

Re: Northampton South (#91)

Citizen Smith - such venom for comrades!  If, indeed, you are a comrade.  I'm not convinced.  I think you're a journalist stirring the pot.

Why do I think this?  Well, something about your posts doesn't ring true.  I've been reading your posts and noticed something.  They generally fall into one of three categories. 

1.  Virulent attacks on various activists within our town (not city, so why use this term?).  You would make your case far better with reasoned debate and argument.

2.  Statements of 'facts', which include basic errors that would not be made by someone as close to the action as you make yourself out to be.

3.  Fishing expeditions ('have