Thoughts on a new manifesto: England, immigrants and the family

The Fabian Society has asked a few Labour MPs what they would propose to Ed Miliband for insertion into the party's next election manifesto. Here are the thoughts of Frank Field:

1. England - according to Field the next manifesto must have something to say on the so called 'English' question. He suggests that once again Labour must again lead the devolution debate – but for England this time (he warns that it would be very dangerous if the Tories were to be seen as the party of England).

2. Immigration - Field argues that we cannot survive with the present rate of change and calls on Labour to lead the debate on how to slow down the movement from Eastern into Western Europe.

3. Family - Labour must commit to eliminating from the benefit system the huge unintended discrimination against couple households. He says that the 'mega rise' in young single parents started after Thatcher's destruction of male manufacturing jobs. He suggests that young males in particular should be given serious training options instead of the all too mundane ones presently on offer.

What do you think? Is Frank right? Is this political cross-dressing gone mad? Could not each of these points just as likely appear in a Tory manifesto?

Or is the reality that Field is correct and that all three are political 'nettles' that will have to grasped sooner or later?

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Re: Thoughts on a new manifesto (#1)

1. Certainly agree with this one. England needs devolution in some form or another as we are far too centralised with London dominating every aspect of our lives. I'm sceptical about an English Parliament as that is still hardly devolution - we need to devolve down to a more local level - perhaps regional assemblies or city regions or something like that.


2. Don't agree here. Free movement of labour is one of principles of the EU and the common market, so we shouldn't go against that. If we are discussing limiting immigration from outside the EU then perhaps I'd be more sympathetic.


3. I don't believe that the state should encourage one type of family over another so I'm not supportive of his negativity concerning single parents. Relationships and families are personal issues and not something the state should be concerned with.

Re: Thoughts on a new manifesto (#2)

There you go Northern Monkey, I agree with you on pretty much everything you've said here. The only thing I'd say is that Frank Field is saying that the system discriminates against couples. If this is the case then I'd say it is only fair to level the playing field.

Re: Thoughts on a new manifesto (#3)

1. Yes to an 'English Parliament'. You can achieve this simply by not allowing Scotish MP's to vote on purely English Legislation. 2. Field is wrong in believing that you can control migration across Europe from the Eastern bloc; any measures introduced would simply not work. You could perhaps inveset more in creating jobs in say Poland so they'd think twice before coming here.
3. Field is absolutely spot on right on this one ,if we are to change society for the better. The increase in single parent families is 'an abomination' to use an old Ian Paisley phrase. The State is actually promoting dysfunctional families.!

Re: Thoughts on a new manifesto (#4)

Why do you keep calling single parent families 'dysfunctional'? Do you not realise how insulting and patronising that is to people who have been brought up by single parents?

I could just as easily say marriage is dysfunctional given the amount of couples that break up.

Re: Thoughts on a new manifesto (#5)

My apologies, I should have said... 'some'. Single parents who have deliberately not chosen to become so but have though unfortunate circumstances such as the loss of one parent or through an unavoidable divorce or separation, then no blame attaches. The majority of single parents do their very best to bring up children in difficult circumstances and are to be commended.

Re: immigration (#6)

There's a problem in saying we want to restrict immigration. What people often mean is restricting 'asylum-seekers', who are not from USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand and South Africa. When people think of immigrants, they think Poland, Nigeria, Ghana, Bulgaria, Romania, India, Sri Lanka, Pakistan etc. I just want to see if the immigration statistics are reduced, whether the number of immigrants from the first five countries would be reduced, or whether there would be any complaints about those "bloody Poms, Yanks and Kiwis, comin' over 'ere. Takin' our jobs"