Is the Left useless at blogging?

Why is it that the most popular and the most influential political blogs tend to be of the right?

Blogging is hard work - yes I know it's not digging trenches but it does take up a good amount of time. The majority of political bloggers are not professional journalists, few - if any - have editors and most make no pretense of objectivity. Yet they're forcing the mainstream news media to follow the stories they're pushing, such as Cherie Blair's signing of the Hutton Report or the 'outing' of the Fake Shiekh.

Just a few years ago, blogs were relatively rare. Now there are millions. They're devoted to every topic imaginable, from football to flower arranging, from Big Brother to Big Bands. But those who have had the most impact write about politics. Let me rephrase that. Those who have had the most impact write about politics and tend to be anti-Labour.

My fear is that we - pro-Labour bloggers - are in danger of being swamped. Yes I know that B4L has 200+ registered bloggers but how many get more than a couple of hundred hits a day or week? How many of them are read by the likes of Nick Robinson and Adam Boulton?

Does it matter? Yes it does. There's no question in my mind that political bloggers are a major new development in British politics. They take the media out of the hands of the corporate world and put it into the hands of anyone with a computer and an internet connection. Their audiences (for Blogs like Iain Dale and Guido we are talking hundreds of thousnads of hits per month) tend to be political junkies who have almost non-stop access to a computer and large amounts of time to surf the Internet for breaking news. This is what makes political bloggers so powerful - their ability to influence the influencers! Labour is on the back foot at present and it desperately needs to find a way of reconnecting with the influencers and political junkies before it is too late. Update: I am in the process of writing an article about what Labour needs to do to reconnect with its core support and would welcome any helpful ideas or observations. You can email them to me at mike-ion@hotmail.co.uk or post a comment by clicking HERE.


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Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#1)

One thing that springs to mind- and this may be completely wrong- is that as we are in power, and have been so for some time now, it is much easier for bloggers to oppose us than it is for them to write supportive things about Labour. Most people will want to look at something that takes the rip out of the government and makes suggestions for alternative ways to run the country. I'm betting that if this were going on in the mid-90s, it would be the left-leaning blogs getting all the attention and the right-wing ones suffering.

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#4)

I see what you mean. I don't understand it but it does seem easier to write opposing blogs than ones in support. I think Labour has been fairly slow at catching up in the blogging world. I only found out about this site 2 days ago, and yet I knew of Conservative Home for ages. Maybe we are gaining ground now, and particularly when the conference is on as more people will actively search for Labour blogs.

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#2)

We were but we're learning fast.
Is it just me or do other bloggers think the Labourhome page layout is far too complicated, too many symbols, far too much info, too many directions and instuctions. It needs drastic remodeling. And can we have sensible names like alex hilton, not hide behind fictitious ones like Howlermonkey: I want to talk to a human being not a simian. Lets have a layout and type and spacing more soothing on the eye and not a format straight out of the Socialist Worker or the Morning Star. There, I've upset the extreme left again. Not to worry.

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#3)

You might want to post a comment on this thread, which is on updating LabourHome:

http://www.labourhome.org/story/2006/9/11/64711/0271

It's a great site but I think it has started to get a bit too "busy" as more people have piled in.

Perhaps if we had a simpler front page with just particularly significant stories (chosen by popular recommendation or the editors' choice) then a sidebar with a series of categories - all recent posts, then separate threads for policy discussion, news, jobs, selections, the leadership, or whatever different sections there are. Those were my thoughts anyway.

One other useful thing might be a section on by-elections. Would be great if LabourHome could start organising campaigning and stuff.

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#6)

Actually, I have asked the party to let me know about by-elections for posting here - we'll see what comes of that

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#8)

I suspect that this is something the party have never actually thought about. If you don't get anywhere, I'd be happy to see if I can run something on an ad hoc basis.

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#21)

Next week's by-elections seem to be:

-Blackburn with Darwen BC- East Rural ward
Labour candidate: Stella McLennan
May 2006 results: Con 699, Lab 47

- East Hampshire DC- Whitehill Walldown ward
I haven't found many info about it. Labour didn't contest it last time, so I suppose it's a sort of hopeless ward (the LD are defending the seat)

- Fife UA- Markinch & Woodside East ward
Labour candidate: Ivor Gibson
May 2003 result: Lab 1,074, SNP 545, Con 121, LD 104

- Gateshead MBC- Dunston and Teams ward
Labour candidate: Pauline Dillon
May 2006 result: Lab 984, LD 321, BNP 242, Con 162, Ind 104

- Nottinghamshire CC- East Mansfield
Labour candidate: Helen Holt
May 2005 result (2 members ward): Lab1 3997, Lab2 2854, Ind 2461, Con1 2132, LD 1976, Con2 1828, Green 1019

- Rossendale BC-  Cribden Ward
Labour candidate: Christine Gill
May 2004 result: Con 681, Lab 585 (the defending party in the byelection is actually the Libdems who won the seat in 2003, but they didn't contest it in 2004)

- Wrehexam CBC- Rossett ward
Labour candidate: Stuart Whiles
June 2004 result: Ind 384, Lab 334, Libdem 328

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#20)

The Conservative and the ALDC (Association Libdem councillors) wesbites usually post a list of forthcoming local by-elections.

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#17)

>> it has started to get a bit too "busy" as more people have piled in.

That's the whole point - we want it busy - but not confused.

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#5)

Yep I think the layout is too complicated. As mentioned above, I only joined here 2 days ago, and when I found this site I thought that it didn't look as good as Con Home. Sure this will change over time though.

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#7)

Bear with us on this. Thanks

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#9)

Alex - I think the points about layout are well made however I think the Labour blogging community should be hugely grateful to you for taking the lead and establishing Labourhome.

I have a piece on blogging that will be featured on the Guardian's Comment is Free section - I wouls welcome your comments/observations on its content (mike-ion@hotmail.co.uk)

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#10)

Told you from the beginning to improve the look and feel Alex.  Your content is undermined by the presentation.

Why the three most popular political blogs are anti-Labour is not just because the government is unpopular, it is because they are better.

Putting politics aside, in your heart of hearts do you really think that Recess Monkey is as good as Guido Fawkes?  That Kerron Cross is as good as Iain Dale?  That LabourHome is better than ConservativeHome?

Also, and this seems difficult to impress upon you lefties, their is an anti-politics disillusionment in the air.  People are not enthusiastic for the right either.

Putting more pictures of pretty girls on your blogs helps.  Don't suppose you'll be taking up that suggestion... ;)

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#12)

You might be reading the wrong blogs.

The best Labour blogs are

The Daily

Labour Humanists

Tygerland

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#19)

Thanks snowflake5.

Right back at yer!  Brilliant post today. :)

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#27)

Never heard of them.  And judging by the lack of comments, nor has anyone else.

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#13)


Obviously a few changes from time to time on presentation is to the good: but generally speaking I think this is a very good site.  I much prefer it to Conservative Home (and not just because, like Aneurin Bevan, I consider conservatives vermin...) - it has a much more democratic feel about it, and I hope that won't be lost with any presentational changes that may be employed.

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#28)

I mean the content as well.  The subject choices - not the slant.

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#31)

Well the subject choices are those of the contributors.  Obviously if someone wants to do a comedy blog they can, and I'm sure we'd enjoy it.

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#14)

"Putting politics aside, in your heart of hearts do you really think that Recess Monkey is as good as Guido Fawkes?  That Kerron Cross is as good as Iain Dale?  That LabourHome is better than ConservativeHome?"

In terms of presentation and look Kerron Cross blog is not worse than Dale's one IMO.
And I don't think that the strongest point of your blog is the presentation/layout

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#11)

We're working on a new layout, and it should be up once we're all done with Conference.

If you have any suggestions, do e-mail us at support[at]labourhome.org.

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#15)

Have to agree with the first comment - Any party in power is going to be a target. At the moment the Labour Party is a Fish in a Blogging Barrel.

Alot of what makes the Tory blogs funny is that they are ripping into mistakes made by Labour implementing or arguing about our policies. It's better to be making mistakes than hypothecating about making them.

There is also the problem that the Tories are playing their cards close to their chest until the next election - so we have nothing to snipe about.

In the back of my mind I keep playing over an idea about a more constructive sort of blog where people could interact in a more constructive manner. This blog would be about taking policy from the idea stage through to implementation and operation. I wouldn't just be for politics by for general sorts of projects involving group management.

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#16)

Depends what you are trying to achieve.

If you're looking for quantity (rather than quality) the site needs to simplified, content made more accessible and the tone lowered to be more gossipy, open & main stream.

If you're looking for more quality debate I'd suggest more pointed policy questions, leaving the topics on for longer than a few hours and getting NLP to actually respond to the debate so people believe they can make a difference.

Right now the site is trying to do both and achieving neither.

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#18)

Spot-on.

Make your mind up quantity or quality.

If you want both clearly seperate the two.

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#22)

Left wing commentators all stick together.  Their culture is derived in unionism, working class cooperation and class hatred.  No one likes to step out of line.

Right wingers are less inclined to hang together.  Their culture is independent-minded, individual and wide ranging.  That makes for interesting blogging.

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#23)

Blogs are fun. We all like to think we're in the loop and they flatter us that we are. But Mike, you say that "Their audiences tend to be political junkies who have almost non-stop access to a computer and large amounts of time to surf the Internet for breaking news." and conclude that this is what makes them so powerful. Surely this is a non sequitur of the highest order. Political junkies by definition have made up their minds; what they are doing is surfing the web for gossips and intrigue to back up their point of view. We all have highly developed filters for sifting out anything that may not fit our defined philosophies. Hands up anyone who has been influenced by a blog. I'm Labour through and through, but my favourite blog tends to be Guido's because it does what it says on the tin - it provides gossip. I want to know who Prescott's been involved with just as much as the average Tory does, perhaps moreso. And there's the rub; a leftish gossip page chronicling the misdeeds of a Labour minister wouldn't sit right. And a leftish gossip page chroncicling the misdeeds of an unknown Tory spokesman would hardly set you up to be the focus at the even the most desparate dinner party.
There seems to be a misconception that the right has fewer and better blogs. It doesn't, it has more but it's just one or two that have risen to the top and have become essential reads.
So if you want to influence people, knock on doors, hold meetings, do what we've always done.

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#24)

There also needs be be significantly more "humor" on the site. How about a caption competition once in a while?

Here's one to get the ball rolling..."David's new shadow cabinet are left out in the cold again." =>

http://www.conservatives.com/getfile.cfm?file=cameron-norway2&ref=PHOTO/3103&type=jpg

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#25)

You make a number of good points Pipesmoke. I do think that the Left has not taken bolgging as seriously as it might and is in danger of missing out on fully exploiting the power of the blog etc. As to political 'junkies' I think I also made the point that many of the popular and populist blogs are read by influential opinion formers and it is these that we need to get to.

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#26)

The reason for the apparent hegemony of the right-wing in regards to blogging surely has everything to do with the fact that the Labour Party are in power. A quick glance at the US shows the huge activity of the left-wing blogosphere including dailykos.com, mydd.com, thinkprogress.org, americablog.blogspot.com etc. I would suggest that those not in power are always far more active - whether it is the left or right.

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#29)

Is the left useless at blogging? Yes. The left is useless at everything. The reason goes to the heart of ideology. The internet is an open source project, a free market if you like of content, ideas and people. Blogs are created by individuals, and go from the grass roots up. But the left operates from the top-down, hence Labour's rush to create a rival to ConHome. This top-down approach (LabHome) can never be as innovative, natural and readable as the grass roots version (ConHome). Labour supporters expect too much from above.

Being in power is damaging too, but in the USA many left-wing blogs damaged the Democrats. Too many left-wingers are total nuts and put people off.

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#30)

LabourHome isn't run by the Labour party

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#32)

Indeed it does not

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#33)

That's a ridiculous argument - ConHome is run under a firm editorial line and people can only debate what the editors post about; LabHome is more democratic and anyone can post, anyone can recommend those posts for the front page and anyone can debate them.

The situation is the opposite to your analysis - LabHome is far more bottom-up than ConHome.

Re: Is the Left useless at blogging? (#34)

I would recommend the Scottish Cooperative Wholesale Republic website as a good example of a very good layout for a left-leaning blog.