John McDonnell MP to announce candidacy for the leadership

steppenwolff Thu Jul 13, 2006 at 11:29:45 PM GMT Print-friendly version Facebook

During a report on the Six O'Clock News, Nick Robinson said that tomorrow John McDonnell will announce his intention to stand as a candidate in the election for leader of the Labour Party.

He repeats several times on his website that he is "A strong and independent voice" and "a man of principle"

How does this play in the Labour grass roots? What kind of MP is he?
With 24 MPs as members of the SCG, its a sizeable rump






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John McDonnell MP to announce candidacy for the leadership | 14 comments (14 topical)

Re: John McDonnell to (#1)

by Andrea on Thu Jul 13, 2006 at 11:37:24 PM GMT

"What kind of MP is he?"

One of the most rebellious MPs in the Commons. He's from the hard-left of the party. He was Red Ken's deputy during the GLC years. He has some controversial views about IRA too.


Re: John McDonnell to (#2)

by steppenwolff on Thu Jul 13, 2006 at 11:45:32 PM GMT

Just looked him up on Wikipedia and found an article from the Guardian:

"At a gathering to commemorate the IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands, Mr McDonnell said: "It's about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. It was the bombs and bullets and sacrifice made by the likes of Bobby Sands that brought Britain to the negotiating table. The peace we have now is due to the action of the IRA."

As a resident of NI, I am absolutely disgusted by the views he holds. My mother thought Kevin McNamara was bad!


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Re: John McDonnell to (#3)

by snowflake5 on Fri Jul 14, 2006 at 01:14:53 AM GMT

And when he criticises Blair and Brown, you know the latter are doing something right!


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Re: John McDonnell to announce candidacy (#4)

by davidfloyd on Fri Jul 14, 2006 at 02:02:49 AM GMT

Rumour has it that the Socialist Campaign Group were split down the middle on the leadership question with the People's Front of John McDonnell squaring up to the Michael Meacher Popular Front - who were backing a slightly softer left leadership bid from the slightly better known 9/11 conspiracy theorist and former Environment minister.

"How does this play in the Labour grass roots?"

Well, McDonnell's on the far left of the Grassroots Alliance, so the actual grassroots - those who've heard of him - are likely to pretty sceptical.

 


Re: John McDonnell to announce candidacy (#5)

by Andrea on Fri Jul 14, 2006 at 02:19:14 AM GMT

I read Alan Simpson was keen to back Michael Meacher, but McDonnell thinks he's not left wing enough and he didn't resign over Iraq.

Actually I think fielding Meacher would be better for the Left. IIRC they would need to collect 40+ signatures and they need supporters from outside the Campaign Group. I think Meacher would be better suited to get such supporters (Clare Short and the rest of that brigade) than McDonnell


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Re: John McDonnell to announce candidacy (#9)

by doctordunc on Wed Jul 26, 2006 at 02:51:45 PM GMT

Actually this rumour was rubbish.  It was based entirely on two articles in Labour Left Briefing.  One was from Alan Simpson in which he said it might be possible that someone to the left of BrownBlair might stand (and he specifically mentioned Michael Meacher) and another from a party activist expressing his hope that John McDonnell would stand.  Then a Telegraph journalist managed to turn his reading of a public magazine into an 'exclusive' revelation involving rather a lot of imagination.  The suggestion that John and the LRC somehow represent an 'ultra-left' further left than Alan is pure fiction.  Apart from anything else, Michael Meacher was very happy to speak at the LRC conference on saturday and while he did not endorse John's leadership challenge (and you wouldn't have expected him to) he made no mention of any such challenge of his own.  Numerous labour leaders did endorse John's challenge however, including Tony Benn, Alice Mahon, Kelvin Hopkins, etc. - close supporters of Alan Simpson.  So let's not get carried away with talks of a split.

Duncan


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Re: John McDonnell to announce candidacy (#10)

by doctordunc on Wed Jul 26, 2006 at 02:57:45 PM GMT

Oh - and as to whether Meacher would be better for the left... it entirely depends what you mean.  I like Michael Meacher, but he made a huge tactical error by staying in the Cabinet as long as he did.  It was obvious that he was never going to be promoted or helped by Blair (or a future leader from that wing of the party, i.e. Brown) - he could have resigned over GM foods (personally that would have been my preferred choice of Meacher moment!), failing that there was Iraq and numerous other possible moments.  As such his very impressive criticisms of government policy are very easily attacked.  Also, it ought to be said, that while Michael may be able to command a little more parliamentary support (the disgruntled former ministers' club,  I guess - but a few of them are close to Brown) he does not have anywhere near as much of a base outside parliament as John does.

Remember, this leadership election will not be decided by the middle england or by the city - it'll be decided by labour activists, and John McDonnell's base is precisely there.  Okay at some point (perhaps 12 months from now) he needs 44 MPs to support him too, but you can be quite sure that pressure from grass roots groups in the Party and in the unions will be helping in that cause as we speak.

Dismiss this at your peril.

Duncan


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Re: John McDonnell (#6)

by JM on Fri Jul 14, 2006 at 08:24:51 PM GMT

What effect do people think this has on the 'proper' leadership contest?

Does this help or hinder a possible non-Brown candidate (Johnson for example)


Re: John McDonnell (#7)

by steppenwolff on Tue Jul 18, 2006 at 06:46:27 PM GMT

Is Johnson not a "Brownite" and Gordo's choice for DPM?


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Re: John McDonnell (#8)

by Andrea on Tue Jul 18, 2006 at 11:07:23 PM GMT

He's usually portrayed as a Blairite.
As for being Gordon's favourite choice for DPM, well, I think there's no an "official" favourite choice at the moment. But it seems Harriet Harman would like to be said choice, but even Brown is doubtful about her.


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Re: John McDonnell (#11)

by doctordunc on Wed Jul 26, 2006 at 03:02:03 PM GMT


I think you illustrate very neatly that the only distinction between 'Blairites' and 'Brownites' are ones of personality - not of policy or principle.  Charles Clarke found it very easy to become a Brownite after having been an arch Blairite without changing one view in his head (other than on the personalities of at least one of the men in question).  The soap opera politics of the Blair/Brown 'spat' is now very tired and old hat.  The sooner people realise they are two sides of the same coin the better: Blair bombs countries into the stone age, Brown pays for it; Brown privatises our public assets, Blair sells it.  

Duncan


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Re: John McDonnell (#12)

by JM on Thu Jul 27, 2006 at 12:08:51 AM GMT

As someone who thinks that Blair has been the most successful Labour Prime Minister of all time, I can only hope that (if he gets the leadership) Brown will be the other side of Blair's coin.


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Re: John McDonnell (#13)

by doctordunc on Wed Aug 02, 2006 at 01:13:35 AM GMT


Well I don't think you've anything to worry about there (if he gets the leadership) - he certainly will be.


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Re: John McDonnell MP (#14)

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