Rochdale Shortlisting Disarray

Story from this week's Tribune about problems in the selection process in Rochdale

Rochdale rocked by selection controversy
BARCKEY SUMNER

LABOUR'S parliamentary selection process in Rochdale is in disarray. The constituency party's general committee was due to draw up shortlist last Saturday (November 18). However, things came to a halt when the local party passed a motion of no confidence in the selection process.
Local members were unhappy about the number of people allowed on the shortlist. It had been understood this would consist of six names. However, regional Labour Party officials ruled that, as only two women had applied, there should be a shortlist of five:  two women and three men.
Local members were concerned that the shortlist was deliberately being manipulated in order to exclude Afzal Khan, a Manchester councillor, who had received the highest number of nominations.
The Rochdale selection has become increasing contentious. In August, Tribune revealed that Vision 21 the company run Simon Danczuk, another leading candidate for the nomination, had sent questionnaires to Labour members in Rochdale on behalf of the regional party.
It was suggested that, as Mr Danczuk had access to members' views, this might give him an unfair advantage in the forthcoming parliamentary selection.
Mr Danczuk has been described as Downing Street's favoured candidate. He was in business at Vision 21 with Ruth Turner, who is now the head of government relations at Downing Street.
No new date for a shortlisting meeting has been agreed. Shortlisting could now be conducted regionally rather than by local members.
Mr Danczuk said: "I have total confidence in Rochdale Labour Party members ultimately selecting the best candidate to fight the seat."
A Labour Party spokesperson said: "Shortlisting rules were applied as per the rulebook. We will continue to upheld democracy in the Labour Party."


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Re: Rochdale Shortlisting Disarray (#1)

Thanks for posting the article.

According to The Asian News, the number of nominations received were:
Afzal Khan 11
Simon Danczuk 10
Darren Padley 6
Sultan Ali 1

If there're already controversies for Rochdale, I don't dare to think what can happen when safe seats are up for selection.

Re: Rochdale Shortlisting Disarray (#2)

We've had similar problems over candidate selection, although be it on a purely local level. Yes, it's right that a proportionate number of women and BME members be included on any shortlist. But I do wish Region would make it clear from the very outset what the current rules are, and it is also up to the constituency parties to check with Region before going ahead with their selection arrangements. And, I do wish HQ would not put their oar in and parachute their 'favoured candidate' onto  local parties. If that is the case in Rochdale then the constituency should stick two fingers up at HQ and send that 'favoured candidate' off packing.

Re: Rochdale Shortlisting Disarray (#4)

It would be interesting to analyse how those nominations break down. Remember that nominations from party branches are weighted in favour of those with the most members. Totting up individual branch and affiliate nominations doesn't tell the whole story.

I'm also puzzled at how any candidate that has won nominations from local members could be described as being 'parachuted in?' Surely the local members have minds of their own and their choices shouldn't be disrespected just because they chose the 'wrong' man.

It's too easy to cry foul and point an accusing finger at HQ or Regional Office. This situation tells us more about the internal politics of Rochdale GC than anything else.

Re: Rochdale Shortlisting Disarray (#5)

I agree, its more to do with the internal machinations of Rochdale politics, The two leading nominations will no doubt stand a better chance, but it depends on how they present themselves on the day; the best man/woman will win. What I deplore is the increasing trend of easing in young, research assistants to MPs or pressure groups, into 'safer' seats, without them having had experience of a real job, in a different sphere other than politics.

Re: Rochdale Shortlisting Disarray (#7)

Surely if a man were to be "bounced" from the shortlist, it would be single-nominated Sultan Ali, and therefore be of no harm to Azfal Khan in any case?

Re: Rochdale Shortlisting Disarray (#8)

11 nominations to 10 nominations is too close for comfort for poor Azfal and leaves it pretty much wide open,and with the introduction of a woman say, into the equation, well its up for grabs. And so it should be; we don't want candidates walking into seats or leadership of a party. Still, I do hope HQ do not put the squeeze on party members by naming a 'favoured candidate'. On reflection, that label might actually be the kiss of death in a bolshie place like Rochford.

Re: Rochdale Shortlisting Disarray (#9)

My apologies to readers in Rochdale! It's Rochdale not Rochford!
Incidently, did you catch Priti insane Patel's remarks about bringing back the death penalty and the sanctity of the Pound. Well she hasn't changed a bit from her Referendum Party roots. Still a Euro-sceptic and still a right bigot. God help the people of Witham if she ever makes it to the Commons. Hopefully, Witham Labour will choose a sensible,Centre Left candidate to stand against her. I know just the person.

Re: Rochdale Shortlisting Disarray (#10)

I suppose there's space in the shortlist for both Azfal and Danczuk even if they include the 2 women.
I'm a bit torned about being obliged to include the 2 women who applied in the shortlist. I recall Copeland last time when they just had 1 woman who applied and they included her in the shortlist, It turned out she was an embarrassment (not because she worked as a prostitute in the 70's, but because she totally looked out of her depth).

Swatantra, I read the piece about Pattel. I suppose she's trying her best to make Theresa Gorman sound like a sensible and moderate woman. Sadly PP will get elected next time. The new Witham should be pretty safe for the tories.

Re: Rochdale Shortlisting Disarray (#11)

Absolutely right - Witham is rock solid safe for the Conservatives and I can't see much chance of the LD's losing Rochdale.

Re: Rochdale Shortlisting Disarray (#13)

Care to name any examples? I can't think of any "young research assistants to MPs" who have landed a safe seat recently, and I'm struggling to think of many from pressure groups.

Most people who go straight from non-Parliamentary politics in to a safe seat are from the top of the government machine, usually Special Advisers like Kitty Ussher or Hilary Benn. And most of them aren't that young either.

Re: Rochdale Shortlisting Disarray (#14)

There were some researchers/assistants who were elected last time. I can think of Andrew Gwynne (Denton & Reddish) who was researcher to Andrew Bennett; Linda Riordan (Hilifax) who was Private Seretary to Alice Mahon; and Linda Waltho (Stourbridge) who was Principal Adviser for Neena Gill MEP.

Actually I'm not sure that they can qualify as "young". In 2 of this cases, they also were local councillors. In one case I'm pretty sure that she wasn't the prefered candidate by the central party either.

Re: Rochdale Shortlisting Disarray (#3)

The pertinent rule is section 16(e) of the NEC guidelines for parliamentary selections:

Where no sitting Labour MP is contesting the seat, and other than where an all women shortlist has been designated by the NEC, there shall be at least 50 per cent women on the shortlist. If six or more are nominated there shall be a minimum of six on any shortlist. This is subject to a sufficient number of both men and women being nominated (ie should five men and two women being nominated the shortlist would be three men and two women).

Re: Rochdale Shortlisting Disarray (#6)

My understnading is that shortlisting should reflect the nominations. So an attempt to ditch the candidate with the most nominations shouldn't be excluded.
However if you have fewer nominations but a greater number of promised votes then you don't have anyhing to fear and will win the selection anyway.

Re: Rochdale Shortlisting Disarray (#12)

I am in an affiliated organisation and we thought most of the cv's were pretty average, and if Simon Danczuk is "favoured" by no.10 then it doesn't say much about the quality of people there.

Re: Rochdale Shortlisting Disarray (#15)

Does anyone know how this story ended? Tantalisingly, the Manchester Evening News had a snippet on the 6th to say that it was decision-day in Rochdale Labour but since then nothing.