We are a Social Democratic country

The Tories just don't get it.

There was an interesting article in today's Guardian, written by Max Hastings, here, on David Cameron's ideological battle with his party.  It's just the sort of piece that Iain Dale argues is unreflective of the real `mature' debate occurring within the Tories.  

However that's not what I'm getting at.  What struck me about the article was a passage that went:

[David] Cameron knows that Britain is now a social democratic country. Only a catastrophe will make it anything else in the foreseeable future. He must adopt a social democratic agenda to win an election, and he will certainly lose it if he embraces an old Conservative one.
   

This is what many in the Conservative Party do not quite get.  We are now a social democratic country.  When the Tories were categorically defeated in 1997, they were beaten, not because of scandal or fatigue, but because Thatcherism had run its course.  The necessary medicine of economic neo-liberalism had been taken and Britain could no longer be dismissed as an economic basket case.  Thanks a lot, there's the door.

New Labour has changed the political landscape in the UK.  By looking towards Clinton's Third Way election winning achievements in the US, and the successful Social Democratic countries of Northern Europe they were able to marry economic competence with improved social provisions.  There have been great successes and significant failures, but the expectations of the country have indeed changed.  Cameron knows this, as he knows the dark unforgiving politics of Thatcher are no longer appetising to an electorate that sees social justice as a key political goal.

There are many in the centre-right blogosphere who consider it cool again to be a Tory.  They see Labour on the ropes and believe they can now come out and celebrate their conservatism.  Taking the lead from Conservative (Big C) America, they believe that can take a disciplined and aggressive Tory argument to a willing electorate.  They are wrong.  The Tory argument won't win, and Cameron knows this, yet if he apes Blair's Labour he will have to deliver Blair's vision; that of a social democratic future, more in line with the Swedish economy than that of the US.  This however will be unpalatable to the Tory base and indeed to the avowedly low-tax bloggers who champion his cause.  Can Cameron sustain a fight with his grassroots for ten years?  Blair has had to, and for the most part he has pulled it off.

Voters in Northern England, Scotland, Wales, and the major urban areas still refuse to trust the Tories, which makes winning power outright almost impossible.  While Cameron enjoys some successes in polls he fails to convince the electorate when directly compared to Gordon Brown.  Brown is trusted more on security and the economy.  Slippery Dave clearly has a lot still to do.

I have already admitted, there are major failings of this Labour Government.  Delivery on health and education, while impressive, doesn't quite match the massive increase in spending.  The tax system is over-complicated.  Violent crime is a concern.  And the consumer credit levels are frighteningly high (a hangover of Thatcherism).  There is also the colossal error in going to war in Iraq, which was, we must remember, fully supported by the Tories.

There is a strong argument for some reduction in the overall tax-burden to stimulate a cooling economy, but the public refuses to see schools and hospitals return to the dilapidated state of the eighties and early nineties.  We don't particularly enjoy paying for it, but we do like the fact that working families can have some self-respect and enjoy some of the proceeds of Britain's impressive economic growth.  And let's not forget, there are many more millionaires too.

Labour needs renewal.  We need a fresh batch of cabinet members to take on the next generation of change, but we don't need the Tories, nor do we need Cameron's rehashed pseudo-Blairism.  

I'm undecided on the leadership ambitions of Brown, but I'm very attracted to his demanding and uncompromising approach to policy.  We need a bit of steel to get the next round of reforms through and start to get the returns on current investment that taxpayers demand.  I want to see an extension of the impressive urban regeneration that we have seen across the country (a real visible improvement so rarely championed by the media).  Maybe he's not the radical the Blairites demand, but let's not get carried away, many of the present reforms have not actually been fully implemented nor their benefits fully realised.  So let's dot our i's and cross our t's before we start a new chapter.  We need to consolidate.

What can Cameron really offer the British people that a Brown Government cannot?  It may offer a new logo and a trendy leader, but he can't really offer anything new that actually matters.  We like who we are, who we have become.  Last year, during Hurricane Katrina, we saw exactly what a low-tax neoliberal economy is really like.  America's poor suffer real poverty in the world's richest country.  They work long hours for little pay, and when the storms came their government abandoned them.  Many Americans were shocked to see how the other half really live, and were disturbed to see how little value their government put on their safety and wellbeing.  Is this the small government you want for Britain?

We are a Social (Big S) Democratic country, and because David Cameron will never fully convince his party as such, he will fail.

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This isn't about Cameron it's about Brown. (#1)

This isn't about Cameron it's about Brown. I can't believe how our MPs are sleep walking into the Brown catastophe. A well rounded, experienced "team" with a different leader and some time to get a clear message across will whip the Tories. Does anybody out there agree with me or am I wasting my breath (or fingers in this case)?

Re: This isn't about Cameron it's about Brown. (#2)


Cameron does not need policies to beat us.
He is gathering the support of the Waitrose brigade and organising the shire voters.

We in Labour squandered our 97 and 2001 success when Blair took us into the arms of Bush, people will not trust us again for that reason.
We could have mobilised our voters but they have, in large part, left us, ashamed of the shell of a party we have become.
We will reap what we have sown im afraid and Cameron will have the spoils, mores the pity.

Re: This isn't about Cameron it's about Brown. (#3)

Anonymous - you sound like you've been lapping up the rubbish written on ConHome.

Waitrose has a 3.5% market share. The "Waitrose brigade" is not big enough to win squat. As for your comment about the shires - the rural areas always go for the Tories, apart from when they occasionally go for the Lib Dems. And the Tories still lost the last three elections. The people in the shires wouldn't even vote Labour if we increased their subsidy (and we're not going to, it's a waste of money).

Most of Britain doesn't live in the shires, and hence most constituencies arn't in the shires. They're in urban areas. And urbanites are interested in Labour policies - more police, schools and hospitals, steady economy and so on.

And our party is not a "shell" - it's been energised by last week's conference and confidence is up and so is the will to fight.

(Are you sure you are Labour? - first time I've come across a Labour person so divorced from reality as to talk about "the Waitrose brigade" and "the shires" as though they were substantial parts of the electorate)

Re: This isn't about Cameron it's about Brown. (#10)

not every "mondeo man" drove a mondeo, not every "wouscester woman" lived in wouscester.

Those labels are a marketing shorthand for a set of characteristics that may be spread over several people - but each of which is one that signifies them as being part of the target demographic. These short hand labels are then used within parties to target people who share certain attributes with "dog whistle" policies.

The Waitrose tag may well be the generic term for people:
affluent middle class
budgens/m&s food/organic shoppers
more tuned in than average to green issues

A lot more poeple than just shop at waitrose share two of those three characteristics.#

Wozza

Re: This isn't about Cameron it's about Brown. (#4)

I guess your just wasting your breath. Come on 'anonymous' reveal yourself, your're just a Tory stooge aren't you.???
Who can ever know how a PM will turn out.
Attlee turned out ok. Eden had everything going for him, was a dud. Heath unexpectedlty had the vision to take us into Europe. As for Brown, the occasion makes the man. You'll all be pleasantly surprised.

Re: This isn't about Cameron it's about Brown. (#6)

Your pathetic.

Just because I don't believe the electorate will vote Brown in as PM that makes me a Tory? I don't think so. Brown is a very capable chancellor and he achieved many good things (would a Tory say that!!). I just don't believe the voters will warm to him & he should stay in No.11.

Re: This isn't about Cameron it's about Brown. (#7)

You're

Re: We are a Social Democratic country (#5)

"I can't believe how our MPs are sleep walking into the Brown catastophe."

Brown seems to be getting a more difficult ride that would've been expected a year or so ago.

Many MPs will support whoever looks like winning.  

Even in the world of 24 hour media, it's not a presidential election so it's going be about more than Brown vs. Cameron. Even if voters aren't overly keen on Brown that doesn't necessarily mean they'll be ready to support the Tories.

Re: We are a Social Democratic country (#8)

"we are a social democratic country"

err actually we are a pretty conservative (sadly) class obsessed country that will vote in a Tory government with a big majority because Labour has squandered its 97 and 2001 wins.
I have no wish to see a Tory government but we will be shafted big time at the next election.

The Tories and their aspirant followers are on the march, oh and by the way, the "waitrose brigade" can be found in just as many urban areas as rural and they will ensure a Cameron win.

All the quasi trendy green, middle classes and aspirant guardian/observer readers will give Cameron and his cronies an easy win.
Dont believe me but its going to happen.

As soon as its clear Camerons heading for n0 10 all the well heeled Blairite hangers on in our party, the ones who strut around in sharp suits and attend "Progress" meetings (and have no idea what its like to have been poor) will desert to Cameron.

Our party will be left with an empty shell.
Its been on the cards for ages and nobody bothered to do anything.
One conference cannot undo it, our party was taken over by a bunch of Midwich Cuckoos.

Re: We are a Social Democratic country (#9)

Too right. We could be left with the rump of the hard left activists who've always prefered opposition to actual government so that they can have a winge at everything and everyone. The literatti and glitterati could well desert us for Camerons Notting Hill Mob. We must offer them some new vision in the Arts so that these waverers stick with us. They have tremendous pulling power on the young and trendy vote.

Re: We are a Social Democratic country (#11)

We wont be left with any activists the way its going mate.
Most of the posy Progress types will go wherever they think the power will be, bit like the people who only follow a football team when its winning all the time and top of the table.
They are interchangeable with Camerons crowd and it will be no great shakes to them, they are just careerists anyway.
I also find it amazing when Blairite outriders label anyone who questions things as 'hard left'.

Well that kind of attitude is what got us in this mess in the first place and that and going to war at the behest of Bush and lying to the country about WMDs.
That war as much as anything will be our undoing.
The next election is Camerons (sadly) and he wont even have to have any policies to win it.