Labour should welcome 18doughtystreet

Are the rightwing blogs going to become an albatross for the Tories?  

Watching 18doughtystreet got me thinking about the Tory blogs and their supposed advantage in the blogosphere.  Are the rightwing blogs going to become an albatross for the Tories?  

Think about it.  

In the US the liberals are ahead in the blogosphere, with Kos and The Huffington Post leading the way.  Yes the right has some immensely popular blogs, Michelle Malkin and Instapundit to name but two, but it's the left who have mastered the blogosphere for news distribution and activism - mainly because they have an incumbent government to rally against.  However they have also tended to represent the more radical cutting edge of the Democratic Party, the hard left.  

A disillusioned, but still avowedly conservative electorate, is still mistrustful of a Democratic Party that is ill disciplined, elitist and morally out-of-touch.  Now with centrists such as Hilary and Mark Warner looking to drag the party back to electability, it is the leftwing blogs who remain a source of ideological self-criticism, embarrassingly pulling the party back to the left.  The rightwing media machine is highlighting Democrat blogging radicalism as proof that the liberals do not understand post-911 America, and that the Dems are a haven of the "loony left."  

On the first night of 18doughtystreet the channel couldn't wait to sink its teeth into the BBC, an institution still very much close to the nations heart.  The foreign analysts were some of the hawkish I had heard this side of the pond, and were totally at odds with a British people who are fuming about Iraq, and are terrified we'll make the same mistake in Iran.  Halfway through the first nights output I was smiling.  The blinkered rightwing chaff that was being peddled was just the sort of thing Slippery Dave is trying to paper over.  Brilliant.

After pouring another cup of tea my night got even better, when halfway through Iain Dale's Vox Politic show, he cut to a saccharine slow-mo video homage to Thatcher.  Wow, I thought, it's all been a con; Iain Dale is a Labour mole, buried deep in the Tory base he is subverting Slippery Dave's new `Liberal Conservatism' from within.  Genius.  Using horrifying images of The Thatch, Dale was pulling the new clothes from Cameron, exposing the boom and bust Thatcherite sentiment that still powers the grassroots party.  

When Francis Maude next champions the Tory bloggers he seems so enchanted by, maybe he should look over the pond and decide whether in the end, they'll do more harm than good?

From tygerland.net


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Re: Labour should welcome 18doughtystreet (#1)

Good point.

Re: Labour should welcome 18doughtystreet (#2)

Unfortunately, blogs are the future. Who wants to trudge the streets delivering leaflets which are likely to end up in the bin; I don't. Even though blogs are not face to face interaction, they are a better means of communication between MPs Councillors and the punters out there, and for us commenting on policy and developing it.

Re: Labour should welcome 18doughtystreet (#3)

Blogs, just like the leaflets, will only be read by those who are interested in politics anyway.

The vast majority of people will still get their information and views from the TV and newspapers.

Re: Labour should welcome 18doughtystreet (#16)

Well said!  The hype about political blogs has gone way over the top I guess it's helped to boost a few ego's (i.e Iain Dale etc).  But generally political blogs are talking to the converted, how many new people are they actually attracting?

Re: Labour should welcome 18doughtystreet (#4)

The point with leaflets, if done right, is that they can be very focused on particular audiences in local areas. They will reach more of the electorate for a particular representative or a candidate than any blog ever will, but then they're trying to achieve something very different to a blog.

I'm not convinced that blogs are a great way to engage with the public. They are good for the already politically inclined to engage with each other though, and that also has its place.

The best way to engage with the voters, however, is to knock on their doors.

Re: Labour should welcome 18doughtystreet (#6)

Perhaps, if they are in and they haven't got something under the grill, or the kids don't need putting to bed just yet. These days people don't like talking on the doorstep much. There are a lot of don't knows and undecideds out there, who don't want to reveal all. Perhaps telephone canvassing could be used a lot more.
And of course blogs a way of communicating in your own time. Sometimes you are speaking to the already converted and its good to know those who will be voting for you.

Re: Labour should welcome 18doughtystreet (#5)

Agree. Internet TV is here and going to stay.  It takes time and money to set up a station - money that I doubt Labour has right now.

So.  Why not take up 18doughtystreets offers and make it less of Tory TV and get a show, and put up people for chat, for/from the Labour movement.

It won't cost a jot to Labour, and it means that the apparent Tory head start is anulled - after all, if Labour does have the cash for this, it would take time to set up.

Labour people can only lose from shying away and/or thinking "we want our own thing".  

Go for it.

Re: Labour should welcome 18doughtystreet (#7)

Let battle commence!

http://reclaimlabour.blogspot.com/

Re: Labour should welcome 18doughtystreet (#8)

So you set up a site as a front for the McDonnell Leadership campaign in order to smear people that might stand against him?

Interesting

Re: Labour should welcome 18doughtystreet (#9)

I'm not saying it is a front. I'm ASKING if it is a front? Your own personal contribution to McDonnell's campaign

Re: Labour should welcome 18doughtystreet (#10)

I especially like how Google is advertising the official website for Menzies Campbell on this site.

Re: Labour should welcome 18doughtystreet (#11)

He needs all the help he can get

Re: Labour should welcome 18doughtystreet (#12)

True..

Re: Labour should welcome 18doughtystreet (#13)

The Tory Blogs are hysterically funny. Let them hang themselves whilst we have a good laugh.

Generally the Lefter Blogs are more erudite and respectful of the views of others, which illustrates the difference of approch to politics.

http://dermotrathbone.spaces.live.com/

Re: Labour should welcome 18doughtystreet (#14)

People on the left should respond to 18 Doughty Street by following its example and creating an internet channel of their own. I think 18DSt is an important and interesting enterprise (and, no, I'm not just saying that cos I've been on it). So whose going to couhg up for a nice house in Bloomsbury? Cherie? Are you out there?  

Re: Labour should welcome 18doughtystreet (#15)

Dave,

What we need is a vast, enormous ego to front it...

...but both Iain Dale and Tim Montgomerie are busy.

;)