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Islington North CLP Nominate Brown and Harman as Leaders | 25 comments (25 topical)

Re: Islington Nominate Brown and Harman (#10)

by grayee on Sat May 26, 2007 at 11:56:40 PM GMT

Sorry, yes that is true, you have not - however, do you agree with this proposition?


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Re: Islington Nominate Brown and Harman (#11)

by Andrea on Sun May 27, 2007 at 12:05:27 AM GMT

naturally I disagree. CLPs can nominate whatever they like no matter what their MPs have done. And I don't think preferring Hilary Benn to Harriet Harman is such a shame to deserve deselection...in many cases deselections leave split CLPs and lead to GE losses. They should be used but not abused (and used against complacent MPs who don't work hard enough)


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Re: Islington Nominate Brown and Harman (#12)

by grayee on Sun May 27, 2007 at 12:19:56 PM GMT

True, however I suppose my point is really about all the abuse that some MP's who nominated Brown got and the threats that they will be in trouble or even deselected by their CLP. Actually, I think that the support Brown got within the PLP reflected the support he would have received in an election. As would appear from the Islington North vote.


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Re: Islington Nominate Brown and Harman (#13)

by doctordunc on Sun May 27, 2007 at 03:19:50 PM GMT

Sorry but that's nonsensical. There's an ocean of difference between the choice of "nominate Brown or McDonnell" or "nominate Brown or refuse to support the new leader before he's even started". It's pointless to discuss leadership nominations now, because it is not an election.


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Re: Islington Nominate Brown and Harman (#15)

by grayee on Sun May 27, 2007 at 07:28:44 PM GMT

Yes, there is a big difference, but "arguably a contender for the leftist CLP in the UK" makes a conscious decision to nominate (there has been quite a voracious argument that CLP's should not nominate Brown either as a stub over his refusal to make his supporters nominate McDonnell or a protest over the direction of the Party). I think this decision tells us something about the membership. An anon commentator on union futures posted that at the all members meeting "Harman 20, Cruddas 20, Benn 10 and a couple for the rest between them".


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Re: Islington Nominate Brown and Harman (#19)

by doctordunc on Mon May 28, 2007 at 09:24:50 PM GMT

Well what does that say? That they're split over who to vote for deputy? Who isn't? I really think very few CLPs will vote against nominating Brown if somebody proposes it, however absurd and pointless an activity it actually is.


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Re: Islington Nominate Brown and Harman (#21)

by grayee on Mon May 28, 2007 at 11:33:03 PM GMT

Because they believe in Brown (rightly or wrongly)


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Islington North CLP Nominate Brown and Harman as Leaders | 25 comments (25 topical)
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